Pominville sets extension deadline for Sabres

[Bigthuder1636]

WGR is reporting that Pominville will not discuss an extension after training camp opens citing the fact that he doesnt want distractions. The report says that the Sabres know this and that the Sabres and his agent will be talking everyday this week.

 

Link

[deluca67]

Seems reasonable.

[shrader]

I love these games. Remember when Campbell wouldn't talk past a certain date last year?

[Two or less]

If a player makes such a statement that he wants a deal done by so and so date, it must mean they are not even close to a deal. Atleast thats the way i am seeing it.

[nobody]

We were talking about this in another thread:

 

They seem to be on a roll - Will Pommers be next?

 

But thanks for posting the link. ;)

[Kristian]

Oh crap, here we go again.

[frisky]

By annonucing that they don't want disctractions isn't that like a guarantee that there will be a white elephant sitting in his stall all year long if they don't get one done? It's all head games anyways.

[DaFan]

WGR is reporting that Pominville will not discuss an extension after training camp opens citing the fact that he doesnt want distractions. The report says that the Sabres know this and that the Sabres and his agent will be talking everyday this week.

 

Link

 

He is restricted tho, is he not?

[LabattBlue]

Maybe Quinny wants to wait until another team can make Pominville an offer sheet and then ten seconds later he can jump out of his office and yell "WE'LL MATCH"!

 

PS Why is Max still a Sabre? We all know he will be in Lindy's doghouse within a month or two. :doh:

[nucci]

Maybe Quinny wants to wait until another team can make Pominville an offer sheet and then ten seconds later he can jump out of his office and yell "WE'LL MATCH"!

 

PS Why is Max still a Sabre? We all know he will be in Lindy's doghouse within a month or two. :doh:

Because no one wants him and he will be available next year as a free agent.

[LabattBlue]

Because no one wants him and he will be available next year as a free agent.

There is a market for Max. Just look around at some of the offensively challenged teams in the NHL and still tell me there is no market for him. It's all about Darcy recognizing what the market is for Max, setting a deadline and taking the best deal on the table....whatever it may be.

[Guest Sloth]

Just give him the money. Sabres management was so outgoing w/ their plan to keep the core players and build around them. It was a sign that they learned from their mistakes. If they don't consider Pomminstein a core player, it'll continue to show why the Sabres fell a part and why a number of players in NHL don't have a strong desire to play in Buffalo. If something is not worked out before Friday, it'll truly to show management hasn't learned jack and they're in this business strictly for profit, not winning a championshiop.

[Bmwolf21]

Maybe Quinny wants to wait until another team can make Pominville an offer sheet and then ten seconds later he can jump out of his office and yell "WE'LL MATCH"!

:lol:

 

There is a market for Max. Just look around at some of the offensively challenged teams in the NHL and still tell me there is no market for him. It's all about Darcy recognizing what the market is for Max, setting a deadline and taking the best deal on the table....whatever it may be.

Yeah, that's pretty much where I am right now...I just want to move on already. Send him out to Phoenix or down to Florida and be done with it.

[Kristian]

There is a market for Max. Just look around at some of the offensively challenged teams in the NHL and still tell me there is no market for him. It's all about Darcy recognizing what the market is for Max, setting a deadline and taking the best deal on the table....whatever it may be.

 

Problem is, that every offensively challenged team looking at Max last year saw an offensively challenged player. Max can be a nice addition to a team that's already loaded on offense, like the Pens, but to think that he's the answer to anyone's problems? That's just plain dangerous, and I think you're underestimating some of the GM's out there, although most of them have made their fair share of moronic moves in the past.

 

But then again so has everyone else, including Quinn and Darcy.

 

Max was given responsibility last year, was expected to go from youngster to leader, and the entire league was watching as he completely imploded at the first sight of the increased responsibility.

 

Fact is, even if he was a free agent - Would you pick him up for anything under 1.5 mill? Nope, me neither.

[Kristian]

Just give him the money. Sabres management was so outgoing w/ their plan to keep the core players and build around them. It was a sign that they learned from their mistakes. If they don't consider Pomminstein a core player, it'll continue to show why the Sabres fell a part and why a number of players in NHL don't have a strong desire to play in Buffalo. If something is not worked out before Friday, it'll truly to show management hasn't learned jack and they're in this business strictly for profit, not winning a championshiop.

 

I don't think I ever doubted they werein it for profit but hopefully someone has convinced them that winning a cup is good business.

 

Just not so sure I buy that myself, but then again I'm the perfect cynic so don't mind me.

[Bmwolf21]

Problem is, that every offensively challenged team looking at Max last year saw an offensively challenged player. Max can be a nice addition to a team that's already loaded on offense, like the Pens, but to think that he's the answer to anyone's problems? That's just plain dangerous, and I think you're underestimating some of the GM's out there, although most of them have made their fair share of moronic moves in the past.

 

But then again so has everyone else, including Quinn and Darcy.

 

Max was given responsibility last year, was expected to go from youngster to leader, and the entire league was watching as he completely imploded at the first sight of the increased responsibility.

 

Fact is, even if he was a free agent - Would you pick him up for anything under 1.5 mill? Nope, me neither.

You don't think there is one idiot GM or coach who is willing to take a flier on a guy who scored 73 points in his last full season? There are always guys who believe that they can turn a player around, or that a change of scenery/different coaching staff would make all the difference in the world.

 

Max has missed nearly 40 games in each of the last two season. Darcy can easily spin that in trade talks. Hell, he got Dumont, Gilmour AND got the 'Hawks to pick up half Gilmour's salary - in exchange for Michal Grosek.

 

I'd take a mid-to low-round draft pick or a career minor leaguer to get Max out of the system right, and I'm dead serious.

[stenbaro]

Because no one wants him and he will be available next year as a free agent.

I believe he is wanted more than we think he is..He had a terrible year but the 2 prior yrs he was well above average a tad below allstar..If he can get it back he is worth a decent return..

 

There is a market for Max. Just look around at some of the offensively challenged teams in the NHL and still tell me there is no market for him. It's all about Darcy recognizing what the market is for Max, setting a deadline and taking the best deal on the table....whatever it may be.

Darcy is a master at making trades whether it be trading a player who has no upperhand in a contract or one who does..He might be willing to see if Max turns it around and then trade him at the deadline for his worht or let him go the way they let Kalinin go this yr..

 

:lol:

Yeah, that's pretty much where I am right now...I just want to move on already. Send him out to Phoenix or down to Florida and be done with it.

I would rather keep him and give him a shot at this point..If he turns it around great if not cya..

[stenbaro]

Pominville holds the cards for the longterm..He can play out his 2 yrs and as long as he keeps playing like he has the past 2 he will get GIGANTIC MONEY.....I said earlier he is gonna get more than we think and I still believe he will get between 5-6.5..

[LabattBlue]

I'd take a mid-to low-round draft pick or a career minor leaguer to get Max out of the system right, and I'm dead serious.

:thumbsup: The guy doesn't want to buy into Lindy's system(never has, never will)and I'd take Kaleta, MacArthur or any other minor leaguer forward under contract willing to make the sacrifice needed to be an NHL player instead of having Max here for another year.

 

Sorry to hijack this thread that was supposed to be about Pominville! :oops:

[Kristian]

You don't think there is one idiot GM or coach who is willing to take a flier on a guy who scored 73 points in his last full season? There are always guys who believe that they can turn a player around, or that a change of scenery/different coaching staff would make all the difference in the world.

 

Max has missed nearly 40 games in each of the last two season. Darcy can easily spin that in trade talks. Hell, he got Dumont, Gilmour AND got the 'Hawks to pick up half Gilmour's salary - in exchange for Michal Grosek.

 

I'd take a mid-to low-round draft pick or a career minor leaguer to get Max out of the system right, and I'm dead serious.

 

Very true, but if he could "easily" do this, I would think he'd have done it by now.

 

And I absolutely agree with you on the price for Max - Heck, I'd take future considerations, just to avoid buying him out.

 

And yeah, I agree this thread is about Pommers so sorry for the hijack, won't happen again.

[Buffalo Fan]

:thumbsup: The guy doesn't want to buy into Lindy's system(never has, never will)and I'd take Kaleta, MacArthur or any other minor leaguer forward under contract willing to make the sacrifice needed to be an NHL player instead of having Max here for another year.

 

Sorry to hijack this thread that was supposed to be about Pominville! :oops:

 

I'll try to get it back on track (unfortunately)...hate to be pessimistic this early in the season, but I don't think this deal is going to get done. He and Lee Evans are likely to be leaving the queen city sooner than later...

[Bmwolf21]

:thumbsup: The guy doesn't want to buy into Lindy's system(never has, never will)and I'd take Kaleta, MacArthur or any other minor leaguer forward under contract willing to make the sacrifice needed to be an NHL player instead of having Max here for another year.

 

Sorry to hijack this thread that was supposed to be about Pominville! :oops:

I'm going to perpetuate the hi-jack for a moment longer, so bear with me.

 

I think they biggest thing that drives me nuts about Max is exactly that -- that he plays out of the system, and by doing that he puts his teammates in bad situations and that leads to turnovers, offsides, and bad penalties. I'd rather have a guy with a little less skill who is willing to play with his teammates and within the system.

 

Very true, but if he could "easily" do this, I would think he'd have done it by now.

 

And I absolutely agree with you on the price for Max - Heck, I'd take future considerations, just to avoid buying him out.

I think he's trying to leverage one or two other teams against each other, or he's holding out to see if someone gets hurt in training camp. I think he could have made a deal by now but isn't quite in the "I'll take whatever I can get" mode quite yet.

[nfreeman]

If a player makes such a statement that he wants a deal done by so and so date, it must mean they are not even close to a deal. Atleast thats the way i am seeing it.

 

 

Oh crap, here we go again.

 

My feelings exactly (as to both of the above posts). This will be a real bummer if it doesn't happen. OTOH, it's quite possible that Pommer is asking for a number that most of us (as well as Darcy) feel is way too high. What if he wants $7 million per year? Or even $6 million? As much as I like Pominville, it's not like we're talking about Ovechkin here. I frankly have a hard time justifying a number much above $5 million per year for him.

 

What would be a complete debacle, though, would be for us to repeat the Soupy CF -- ie turn down his proposal in August and then make essentially the same proposal back to him in February, by which time it's too late, and we end up trading him.

 

 

I think he's trying to leverage one or two other teams against each other, or he's holding out to see if someone gets hurt in training camp. I think he could have made a deal by now but isn't quite in the "I'll take whatever I can get" mode quite yet.

 

This seems right to me.

[Kristian]

I'm going to perpetuate the hi-jack for a moment longer, so bear with me.

 

I think they biggest thing that drives me nuts about Max is exactly that -- that he plays out of the system, and by doing that he puts his teammates in bad situations and that leads to turnovers, offsides, and bad penalties. I'd rather have a guy with a little less skill who is willing to play with his teammates and within the system.

I think he's trying to leverage one or two other teams against each other, or he's holding out to see if someone gets hurt in training camp. I think he could have made a deal by now but isn't quite in the "I'll take whatever I can get" mode quite yet.

 

What's really funky about Max though, is that I'm not sure he plays out of the system on purpose.

 

Like I've said several times, I saw him play at the world championships several times this year, and he looked just as out of place playing for Russia as he does when playing for the Sabres.

 

I think Max is an extremely gifted skater, who has gotten by on his skating ability and his above average stickhandling, but he completely lacks ANY sort of positional awareness whatsover.

 

He never knows where his teammates are, he doesn't know where the opposition is since he always has his head down (he hasn't gotten creamed yet beacuse he's too damn shifty on those feet), and half the time I don't think he knows where he himself is, on the ice.

[Bmwolf21]

What's really funky about Max though, is that I'm not sure he plays out of the system on purpose.

 

Like I've said several times, I saw him play at the world championships several times this year, and he looked just as out of place playing for Russia as he does when playing for the Sabres.

 

I think Max is an extremely gifted skater, who has gotten by on his skating ability and his above average stickhandling, but he completely lacks ANY sort of positional awareness whatsover.

 

He never knows where his teammates are, he doesn't know where the opposition is since he always has his head down (he hasn't gotten creamed yet beacuse he's too damn shifty on those feet), and half the time I don't think he knows where he himself is, on the ice.

Can't disagree with anything you posted here.