[OT] Hockey and the 2008 election

[inkman]

You mean like this vitriolic gal and these half-truth reporters?

 

Like I said, nobody I know. They aren't popular like Bill and Rush, and unfortunately I know why. They cater to the lowest common denominator.

[inkman]

...and the Sabres will win the SC in 2006.

 

Word to the wise: I try not to count all of my chickens until they hatch.

 

I fully expect another 8 years of Republican rule. It won't be all McCain. I'll be surprised if he lasts 2 more years. America wanted a woman President, they are about to get one.

[FogBat]

I fully expect another 8 years of Republican rule. It won't be all McCain. I'll be surprised if he lasts 2 more years. America wanted a woman President, they are about to get one.

This sickened me when I read it. :angry: I gave up listening to her a long time ago, and that column is a prime example why.

[Bmwolf21]

She looks like she has a nice "rack", but who can tell when it is hidden behind all those layers of business attire. :blush: :blush:

Supposedly she's very athletic and runs a lot, so I don't think you'd be in for any surprises under there. :thumbsup:

 

Like I said, nobody I know. They aren't popular like Bill and Rush, and unfortunately I know why. They cater to the lowest common denominator.

Bingo.

[nfreeman]

I really don't care to engage in political debates on this board, but I thought these were good (and reminiscent of a great thread, now consigned to the ash bin of history, we had after Soupy laid out Umberger):

 

Check it out: http://www.palinfacts.com/

 

 

 

? In 2003, the US considered deploying Sarah Palin to Iraq as a 1-woman commando squad, but wanted to make it a fair fight.

 

? As head of Alaska?s Nat?l Guard, Sarah Palin taught troops in a training exercise to scare a grenade into not exploding.

 

? Sarah Palin believes in change, too. She takes it from your pockets after striking you dead.

 

? Queen Elizabeth II curtsied when she was introduced to Sarah Palin

 

? When Sarah Palin attends ritual blood orgies, she always brings the most delicious ambrosia salad

 

? Jesus has a bracelet that says, ?WWSPD??

 

? Death once had a near-Sarah Palin experience

 

? Sarah Palin is the reason compasses point North.

 

? Sarah Palin is what Willis was talkin bout

 

? Sarah Palin was not flown to Ohio in charter jet- she ran as part of morning workout.

 

? Sarah Palin uses French Canadians as bait to catch giant king salmon.

 

? When Sarah Palin booked a flight to Europe, the French immediately surrendered.

 

? Sarah Palin plays Whack-a-Mole with her forehead, and always gets a perfect score.

 

? Sarah Palin?s finishing move in the VP debate will be pulling Biden?s still beating heart from his chest & taking a bite.

 

? Sarah Palin once won a competitive eating contest by devouring three live caribou.

 

? Sarah Palin once carved a perfect likeness of the Mona Lisa in a block of ice using only her teeth.

 

? Sarah Palin will pry your Klondike bar from your cold dead fingers.

 

? Sarah Palin doesn?t need a gun to hunt. She has been known to throw a bullet through an adult bull elk.

 

? Sarah Palin was kicked off Survivor for killing a man and eating his entrails

[carpandean]

I love when people make strong and blanket statements about their party vs. the "other" party. Here's a few facts:

-There are stupid Democrats and stupid Republicans

-There are immoral Democrats and immoral Republicans

-There are corrupt Democrats and corrupt Republicans

-There are extremist Democrats and extremist Republicans

 

If you believe that your party has fewer of these than the other, then you probably haven't looked at your party closely enough and/or are practicing selective hearing.

 

As above, there are also smart, moral, lawful, reasonable Democrats and Republicans. If you believe that your party has more of these than the other, then you probably haven't looked at the other party closely enough and/or are practicing selective hearing.

 

In general, both sides believe that they are doing what's right for the country. Unfortunately, there are also corrupt individuals, including party leaders, on both sides who take advantage of their positions.

 

The funny thing is that I generally find that I agree with the positions taken by each side about 50% of the time. I find that party representatives on both sides are driven to taking extreme points of view, which can have detrimental consequences. Just to give a simple example (I am intentionally oversimplifying, so don't attack me on this), Democrats will tend to always vote on the side of the worker, while Republicans will always vote on the side of businesses. The reality is neither extreme is best for anybody. Hurting businesses can hurt workers; hurting workers can hurt businesses. However, if you want a chance of getting your party's support, you can't afford to take a moderate stance. Each party doesn't just want to make the decisions that they feel are right, they also want to make sure that they don't make the decisions that the other party embraces.

 

As a side note: a democratic system works best when voters are informed. In practice, however, few voters take the time to look (I know that I never feel like I've spent enough time) and, when they do, the truth is rarely available. What you find is rhetoric, party-line statements and "solutions" without a plan to make them happen (where's the money going to come from; what will have to be given up; how will it be administered?) Additionally, even experts (both practitioners and academics) can't agree on what the impacts of decisions will be, so how is the average voter supposed to know? I don't know if there is a practical solution to the problem (no, not socialism), but the system will never work as well as it seems it should.

 

Ok, that's as political as I am willing to get here. Any more and I'm going to a more appropriate forum. :thumbsup:

[Bmwolf21]

As a side note: a democratic system works best when voters are informed. In practice, however, few voters take the time to look (I know that I never feel like I've spent enough time) and, when they do, the truth is rarely available. What you find is rhetoric, party-line statements and "solutions" without a plan to make them happen (where's the money going to come from; what will have to be given up; how will it be administered?) Additionally, even experts (both practitioners and academics) can't agree on what the impacts of decisions will be, so how is the average voter supposed to know? I don't know if there is a practical solution to the problem (no, not socialism), but the system will never work as well as it seems it should.

 

Ok, that's as political as I am willing to get here. Any more and I'm going to a more appropriate forum. :thumbsup:

This is fantastic stuff, carp. One of my pet peeves is listening to jackasses lecture the voting public for not knowing any better. How the :censored: are we supposed to know better when the truth is buried in politician-speak, legalese and empty rhetoric, and the people we rely on to help decipher some of the BS and the impact of economic moves, etc (media and pundits) are generally nothing but partisan shills themselves, pushing agendas and party lines. That's a big part of the reason why Tim Russert was so popular - he was a no-spin, cut-through-the-BS reporter who tried to put things out there in the plainest terms possible.

 

On a side note, the lack of political savvy politicians prey on is very similar to the lack of financial savvy that banks, mortgage lenders, credit cards, etc use to prey on the uninformed. And for those that have any clue about anything financial, the banks obscure the details and terms, keeping them buried deep in contracts that the "Average Joe" couldn't understand no matter how hard he tried. Gotcha capitalism at its finest.

[deluca67]

A old rich white guy with a hottie on his arm. If that doesn't smell of the elitist 1% that is destroying this country I can't imagine what does.c

 

 

btw, John McCain is the creepiest old guy I have ever seen. Put him in a tee and give him longer hair he looks like my tat.

[deluca67]

Like I said, nobody I know. They aren't popular like Bill and Rush, and unfortunately I know why. They cater to the lowest common denominator.

What a choice that "lowest common denominator" has. They have to chose between a women and a black man. The Southern Republican base of religious zealots that believe women & blacks are lessor beings will finally have to decide which is the greater sin. Will they choose being a women or being black. It will interesting to see what they decide.

[inkman]

What a choice that "lowest common denominator" has. They have to chose between a women and a black man. The Southern Republican base of religious zealots that believe women & blacks are lessor beings will finally have to decide which is the greater sin. Will they choose being a women or being black. It will interesting to see what they decide.

 

Racism tops sexism everytime. Besides, Barack is running for Pres, Palin is running for VP.

[inkman]

Things overheard @ my wife's workplace:

 

"Sarah Palin is really good looking, I'd vote for her." (a female co-worker)

"My sons told me they are voting Republican because they have hotter chicks at the convention." (I guess at least they are motivated to vote)

[SwampD]

A old rich white guy with a hottie on his arm. If that doesn't smell of the elitist 1% that is destroying this country I can't imagine what does.c

btw, John McCain is the creepiest old guy I have ever seen. Put him in a tee and give him longer hair he looks like my tat.

This picture should be sent to http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/

[Bmwolf21]

Things overheard @ my wife's workplace:

 

"Sarah Palin is really good looking, I'd vote for her." (a female co-worker)

"My sons told me they are voting Republican because they have hotter chicks at the convention." (I guess at least they are motivated to vote)

I had more than one person tell me he voted for Bush because he's a "regular guy that I'd want to have a beer with."

[inkman]

I had more than one person tell me he voted for Bush because he's a "regular guy that I'd want to have a beer with."

 

That is the number one prerequisite for Presidential canidacy.

[spndnchz]

Imagine what he would look like after 4 or 8 years of being president. Take a look at Clinton and Bush The Junior before they took office and then look at them at the end of their terms. They look like they aged double the years they were in office. I think if McCain became president, he would look like the old guy guarding the holy grail by the time he was done.

Clinton actually looks younger now that they stopped dying his hair gray to make him seem older.

[spndnchz]

I fully expect another 8 years of Republican rule. It won't be all McCain. I'll be surprised if he lasts 2 more years. America wanted a woman President, they are about to get one.

Isn't this President supposed to be the one that gets shot? elected in an "8" year?

[Bmwolf21]

That is the number one prerequisite for Presidential canidacy.

Absolutely.

 

There's a lot of guys I have beers with that I wouldn't trust answering their cell phones in the middle of the night, let alone dealing with the hypothetical 3 a.m. nuke call.

[nobody]

I had more than one person tell me he voted for Bush because he's a "regular guy that I'd want to have a beer with."

 

 

The problem was Bush didn't drink anymore due to his addictions.

[Stoner]

The problem was Bush didn't drink anymore due to his addictions.

 

You sure? Remember when they said he started choking on a pretzel while watching a football game and fell off his couch? They had to explain the big welt on his face.

[Stoner]

Absolutely.

 

There's a lot of guys I have beers with that I wouldn't trust answering their cell phones in the middle of the night, let alone dealing with the hypothetical 3 a.m. nuke call.

 

And they wouldn't have their hair done, their makeup and pearls on and their pant suit cinched up tight.

[deluca67]

I had more than one person tell me he voted for Bush because he's a "regular guy that I'd want to have a beer with."

 

"regular guy"? I guess being a coked up draft dodging spoiled rich kid does have that earthy guy next door quality. If you're a Kennedy.

[Bmwolf21]

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"regular guy"? I guess being a coked up draft dodging spoiled rich kid does have that earthy guy next door quality. If you're a Kennedy.

Needless to say I was floored when I heard otherwise intelligent people make this comment.

[Taro T]

Isn't this President supposed to be the one that gets shot? elected in an "8" year?

Wrong, it's a Zero year. Abe.

Garfield.

McKinley.

????

FDR.

Kenedy.

Reagan (broke the curse!)

W too (broke the curse!)

[Hirly5]

I am currently in the Land of Vanek and the local paper had the gun toting bikini picture and a topless picture of Mrs. Palin with a sheet covering up her private area on page three of their paper last week. I think it was the day after her speech. I was looking through the paper eating my breakfast and came across it. It got a little chuckle out of me.

 

On a side note, this same paper usually has a topless woman either on page 7 or 9 everyday. Those crazy Europeans.

[Stoner]

Wrong, it's a Zero year. Abe.

Garfield.

McKinley.

????

FDR.

Kenedy.

Reagan (broke the curse!)

W too (broke the curse!)

 

Reagan got shot. :) W. drank shots.

 

FDR wasn't shot.