Weave Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 2 hours ago, JohnC said: What makes me upset is that you have to put coins in a machine to get air for your tires. Having to pay for air is an outrage! Recently, I had to put air in my tires. I put 6 quarters in the machine that had a short time limit. So unsurprisingly, the machine didn't work. No air. I went into the gas station establishment to get a refund. The person working in the enclosed glass area told me that the machine was not owned by the establishment so he couldn't reimburse me. As everyone here knows very well, I'm usually a mellow fellow. I went berserk! I started screaming at him like a maniac. He told me he would be willing to give me 75 cents back. I went even crazier on him to the extent that he backed up with fear in his eyes. He then opened up the cash register and gave me $1.50, a full refund. The question I pose to the members here is: Did I act in an unreasonable manner? Yes, you were the *****. For the reasons Stoner adequately described. And you didn’t attempt to pay for air, you attempted to pay for the use of an electro-mechanical delivery system. Try using your mouth to blow air into your tires and see how effective it is. 1 minute ago, SwampD said: You were right. That guy was full of *****. I disagree with Stoner. You are incorrect. I have experienced the same. Gas stations don’t own the air dispensers anymore. They are basically vending machines owned and operated by another company.
SwampD Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Weave said: Yes, you were the *****. For the reasons Stoner adequately described. And you didn’t attempt to pay for air, you attempted to pay for the use of an electro-mechanical delivery system. Try using your mouth to blow air into your tires and see how effective it is. You are incorrect. I have experienced the same. Gas stations don’t own the air dispensers anymore. They are basically vending machines owned and operated by another company. Don’t care. He knew it was broken and couldn’t let JohnC know?! Why, because it’s not his job? Whatever happened to just being a decent human just cause it’s the right thing to do? And he can’t put a sign on it now that says it’s broken? ***** that guy John was right. Edited January 23 by SwampD
Weave Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 14 minutes ago, SwampD said: Don’t care. He knew it was broken and couldn’t let JohnC know?! Why, because it’s not his job? Whatever happened to just being a decent human just cause it’s the right thing to do? And he can’t put a sign on it now that says it’s broken? ***** that guy John was right. Whatever, boomer. 😂 1
Believer Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 Why not buy a handheld digital air compressor? This is the one I bought a few years ago. Works great on my auto and bike tires. Can’t recall where I got it or the cost.
SwampD Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 58 minutes ago, Weave said: Whatever, boomer. 😂 Guilty.
LTS Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 1 hour ago, SwampD said: Don’t care. He knew it was broken and couldn’t let JohnC know?! Why, because it’s not his job? Whatever happened to just being a decent human just cause it’s the right thing to do? And he can’t put a sign on it now that says it’s broken? ***** that guy John was right. Point of parliamentary procedure. I did not read that the guy ever knew the machine was not working. I also did not read that the guy did not go and put a sign on it afterward. We are also assuming that in the gas station the person working inside is in a good position to leave the register area and the inside of the store unattended. Lots of assumptions being made for someone whose job is to sell what the gas station sells, not care for that which it does not. And as a person who worked at a gas station and had a shotgun put into his chest I can confirm that the fear of an irate customer or being robbed at gunpoint is a very real thing. I was concerned about it before it happened and I quit working there after it happened.
JohnC Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 1 hour ago, SwampD said: Don’t care. He knew it was broken and couldn’t let JohnC know?! Why, because it’s not his job? Whatever happened to just being a decent human just cause it’s the right thing to do? And he can’t put a sign on it now that says it’s broken? ***** that guy John was right. I made the point to this fellow that he should have had an out of order sign placed on air machine. As far as seeking reimbursement from that air compressor company, this fellow and his establishment could have sought reimbursement, instead of me. It should also be pointed out that I frequently "filled up" at this establishment, and this employee knew that I was a regular customer. I no longer patronize that establishment.
JohnC Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Weave said: Yes, you were the *****. For the reasons Stoner adequately described. And you didn’t attempt to pay for air, you attempted to pay for the use of an electro-mechanical delivery system. Try using your mouth to blow air into your tires and see how effective it is. You are incorrect. I have experienced the same. Gas stations don’t own the air dispensers anymore. They are basically vending machines owned and operated by another company. I did pay for air that I didn't receive. It wasn't an attempt to pay because I actually did pay. I paid for a service that I didn't get. In most gas stations you pay upfront before receiving gas. What if I paid upfront $20 for gas and the gas pump didn't work? Wouldn't I get all my money back? If the guy working the counter said that we don't own the defective pumps so you have to notify the gas pump company to get reimbursed would that make sense? Absolutely not. So how is this different? Just because the gas station doesn't own the dispenser doesn't mean that they don't collect a fee or a percentage for allowing the device to be on their establishment. The gas station and car wash establishment does have a business relationship with the "air" company. If the machine is broken they have the ability to put a notice on the device and also contact the company. It's not my responsibility to contact the company, it's the responsibility of the gas station to notify the air company.
Weave Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 21 minutes ago, JohnC said: I did pay for air that I didn't receive. It wasn't an attempt to pay because I actually did pay. I paid for a service that I didn't get. In most gas stations you pay upfront before receiving gas. What if I paid upfront $20 for gas and the gas pump didn't work? Wouldn't I get all my money back? If the guy working the counter said that we don't own the defective pumps so you have to notify the gas pump company to get reimbursed would that make sense? Absolutely not. So how is this different? Just because the gas station doesn't own the dispenser doesn't mean that they don't collect a fee or a percentage for allowing the device to be on their establishment. The gas station and car wash establishment does have a business relationship with the "air" company. If the machine is broken they have the ability to put a notice on the device and also contact the company. It's not my responsibility to contact the company, it's the responsibility of the gas station to notify the air company. Its a vending machine outside of a gas station hut. Its no different than any other vending machine outside of a service provider. The service provider has no relationship with the vending machine company, other than the rent they receive from them. This is the new normal that isn’t that new.
Weave Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 FTR I had the same thing happen to me at a gas station air pump about 4-5yrs ago. Got the same answer when I asked for a refund. My response was “well that sucks, getting gas here used to be convenient”, and I left. Getting in some persons face that has no control, no say, and no responsibility is a dick move. I now have a pancake compressor in my garage.
JohnC Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, Weave said: Its a vending machine outside of a gas station hut. Its no different than any other vending machine outside of a service provider. The service provider has no relationship with the vending machine company, other than the rent they receive from them. This is the new normal that isn’t that new. They have a business relationship with the company. If the machine is broke, the gas station has a responsibility to put up an out of order sign and notify it. What normal are you referring to? Screwing customers who patronize their establishment!
JohnC Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, Weave said: FTR I had the same thing happen to me at a gas station air pump about 4-5yrs ago. Got the same answer when I asked for a refund. My response was “well that sucks, getting gas here used to be convenient”, and I left. Getting in some persons face that has no control, no say, and no responsibility is a dick move. I now have a pancake compressor in my garage. We can go around in circles on this issue but to say that this dismissive fellow has no control over the situation doesn't resonate with me. He can reimburse me and seek his own reimbursement from the company that he has a business relationship on his premises. The money is not a consideration for me. I'm not going to be cheated without responding. You feel differently---that's fine.
Weave Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 18 minutes ago, JohnC said: We can go around in circles on this issue but to say that this dismissive fellow has no control over the situation doesn't resonate with me. He can reimburse me and seek his own reimbursement from the company that he has a business relationship on his premises. The money is not a consideration for me. I'm not going to be cheated without responding. You feel differently---that's fine. He’s a clerk. He’s likely not the owner. Did you really expect someone making minimum wage, baby sitting a window to pay you back out of his own funds? I guarantee you he had been told by whoever pays him to not reimburse for the air machine. You have a beef with whoever operates the station, not the minimum wage worker manning the window.
JohnC Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 12 minutes ago, Weave said: He’s a clerk. He’s likely not the owner. Did you really expect someone making minimum wage, baby sitting a window to pay you back out of his own funds? I guarantee you he had been told by whoever pays him to not reimburse for the air machine. You have a beef with whoever operates the station, not the minimum wage worker manning the window. What are you talking about? He's not paying me back with his own funds. Where do you come up with this foolishness? He's going into the cash register and reimbursing me for the service I didn't receive. And the establishment can be compensated for the miniscule loss of revenue from the company that they receive $$$$$$ from for allowing them to place their failed machine on their premises.
Weave Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 1 minute ago, JohnC said: What are you talking about? He's not paying me back with his own funds. Where do you come up with this foolishness? He's going into the cash register and reimbursing me for the service I didn't receive. And the establishment can be compensated for the miniscule loss of revenue from the company that they receive $$$$$$ from for allowing them to place their failed machine on their premises. The answer to Your question is in the sentence immediately following the one you highlighted. He’s not allowed to reimburse from station funds, so expecting him to reimburse you means doing so out of his own pocket.
JohnC Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 20 minutes ago, Weave said: The answer to Your question is in the sentence immediately following the one you highlighted. He’s not allowed to reimburse from station funds, so expecting him to reimburse you means doing so out of his own pocket. That’s utter nonsense. He took the money out of the cash register.
shrader Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Weave said: Its a vending machine outside of a gas station hut. Its no different than any other vending machine outside of a service provider. The service provider has no relationship with the vending machine company, other than the rent they receive from them. This is the new normal that isn’t that new. And typically there’s going to be a sign somewhere on that pump that says they’re unaffiliated. But on another note, people still use cash to buy gas?
Weave Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 (edited) 10 minutes ago, JohnC said: That’s utter nonsense. He took the money out of the cash register. So, it is your position that when he said he couldn’t reimburse you, he was bluffing? And him paying you out of the register after you got in his face and became belligerent (berserk, I believe is the word you used to describe your behavior) is evidence of that? When his drawer didn’t balance at the end of his shift he almost certainly had to take cash out of his pocket to pay it back. Good job, you. You sure showed that malingering clerk a thing or two about something he had no control over. Edited January 24 by Weave
JohnC Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 16 minutes ago, Weave said: So, it is your position that when he said he couldn’t reimburse you, he was bluffing? And him paying you out of the register after you got in his face and became belligerent (berserk, I believe is the word you used to describe your behavior) is evidence of that? When his drawer didn’t balance at the end of his shift he almost certainly had to take cash out of his pocket to pay it back. Good job, you. You sure showed that malingering clerk a thing or two about something he had no control over. The $$$$ does not come from clerk who is also the manager of the gas station/car wash and store. Stop with your over exaggerating the situation. It’s basic business of returning $$$ for nonservice.
Weave Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 6 minutes ago, JohnC said: The $$$$ does not come from clerk who is also the manager of the gas station/car wash and store. Stop with your over exaggerating the situation. It’s basic business of returning $$$ for nonservice. Close enough to a “yes” for me.
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mjd1001 Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 Commercials on TV that are aired way too much. There are some good commericals, some annoying ones. I can deal with the annoying ones. But then they are aired over, and over and over, I begin to resent the commercial and the company that airs them. The Norwegian Cruise line commerical with the actor from Modern Family, the State farm commercials with Mahomes and Reid....I have seen them so much I never want anything to do with either of those companies again. 1
LabattBlue Posted February 6 Author Report Posted February 6 6 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: Commercials on TV that are aired way too much. There are some good commericals, some annoying ones. I can deal with the annoying ones. But then they are aired over, and over and over, I begin to resent the commercial and the company that airs them. The Norwegian Cruise line commerical with the actor from Modern Family, the State farm commercials with Mahomes and Reid....I have seen them so much I never want anything to do with either of those companies again. Progressive and Flo for me. A tired and never funny ad campaign. 🤮 1
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