IKnowPhysics Posted July 10, 2008 Report Posted July 10, 2008 Mike Peca. Columbus for 1y/$1.3M. http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242931&lid...s=headlines_nhl
Goodfella25 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Posted July 10, 2008 $4 million back then looks smarter than paying Connolly $3.5 now though.
IKnowPhysics Posted July 10, 2008 Author Report Posted July 10, 2008 $4 million back then looks smarter than paying Connolly $3.5 now though. Debatable. Since 05-06: Connolly 113 GP, 96 P Peca 171 GP, 72 P Peca only played 35 games with the Leafs breaking a leg, and suffered concussions with the Oilers and Islanders. We know about Timmay.
carpandean Posted July 10, 2008 Report Posted July 10, 2008 I would, however, take him back at $1.3 million. I said it in another thread, but in addition to being a PK specialist, including faceoffs, you'd have Mair-Peca-Kaleta as your energy line most of the time and Hecht-Peca-Pominville (can you say shut-down with scoring potential?) when Connolly goes down. He'd probably rather stay where he is, though, because they are so bad that he was actually their third-hight (point) scorer with 34 (good enough for 10th on the Sabres last year)!
bleedblueandgold Posted July 10, 2008 Report Posted July 10, 2008 The 34-year-old centre was originally seeking a two-year deal, but accepted a one-year after he saw the club's committment to building a winner. Translation: He'll take a contract when he can get it!!
JoeFerguson Posted July 10, 2008 Report Posted July 10, 2008 Why bust this guy's chops? He played hard for the Sabres and was a helluva captain IMHO. It's too bad he's had such bad luck w/injuries.
apuszczalowski Posted July 10, 2008 Report Posted July 10, 2008 Why bust this guy's chops? He played hard for the Sabres and was a helluva captain IMHO. It's too bad he's had such bad luck w/injuries. He also quit on them and sat out the season in a contract dispute. If people question putting Hasek's number up in the rafters at HSBC because of how he left, why should we not bust Peca's chops? As for Peca and being a guy that could fill in for when Connolly goes down, the problem with that is what do you then do when peca goes down or if he is already down when Connolly goes down? Both have not had very many not injury seasons over this last decade
shrader Posted July 10, 2008 Report Posted July 10, 2008 Am I the only one who said Frank Stallone after reading the thread title? Damn you Norm MacDonald!
rbochan Posted July 10, 2008 Report Posted July 10, 2008 Am I the only one who said Frank Stallone after reading the thread title? Damn you Norm MacDonald! You owe me: 1 beer 1 bottle of windex
Two or less Posted July 10, 2008 Report Posted July 10, 2008 Speaking of $4 million, Pavol Demitra got 2yr, $4mil per from Vancouver. Talk about over paying. No wonder we bounced out of those sweepstakes early on. lol
Goodfella25 Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 Speaking of $4 million, Pavol Demitra got 2yr, $4mil per from Vancouver. Talk about over paying. No wonder we bounced out of those sweepstakes early on. lol I think this is just a classic example of a new GM caving to the fans. I mean the natives were definitely restless--they lost Naslund, only brought in Wellwood and Bernier. They had to make a signing. Demitra was in a position of strength for sure.
carpandean Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 Speaking of $4 million, Pavol Demitra got 2yr, $4mil per from Vancouver. Talk about over paying. No wonder we bounced out of those sweepstakes early on. lol I don't know. While health is a bit of a concern (he's no Connolly, but he seems to miss 10-15 games in many seasons), when he is healthy, he puts up pretty good number. Last year was on the low side for him and he still managed .794 points per game. Before that, he had 0.901, 1.068, 0.853, 1.192, 0.951, 1.023, 1.056, 1.085, 0.852. Like it or not, that kind of production is pushing $4 million per season these days.
DR HOLLIDAY Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 He also quit on them and sat out the season in a contract dispute. If people question putting Hasek's number up in the rafters at HSBC because of how he left, why should we not bust Peca's chops? What Hasek did and what Peca did are not even close to be the same thing man.......Not by a long shot.
Kristian Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 Speaking of $4 million, Pavol Demitra got 2yr, $4mil per from Vancouver. Talk about over paying. No wonder we bounced out of those sweepstakes early on. lol Or later on, for that matter.
Kristian Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 He also quit on them and sat out the season in a contract dispute. If people question putting Hasek's number up in the rafters at HSBC because of how he left, why should we not bust Peca's chops? Peca asked to be traded. Hasek threatened to retire if not traded for minimal value. While you certainly have the right to be pissed at Peca as a fan, I don't see how the two situations are comparable by a longshot. So as it turned out we got absolutely nothing in return for Peca apart from a center who plays 30 games per season on average, with an inflated contract to boot, but that was Darcy's doing not Peca's.
apuszczalowski Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 Peca asked to be traded. Hasek threatened to retire if not traded for minimal value. While you certainly have the right to be pissed at Peca as a fan, I don't see how the two situations are comparable by a longshot. So as it turned out we got absolutely nothing in return for Peca apart from a center who plays 30 games per season on average, with an inflated contract to boot, but that was Darcy's doing not Peca's. Hasek also asked to be traded, except instead of trying to force the Sabres to do it by sitting out, he threatened them by saying he was going to retire Both players quit on the team and screwed the fans and team over. Peca sat out the year, Hasek just forced them even more by threatening to retire and forced the Sabres to get minimal in return. The End result was the same, both of them forced their way out of Buffalo
Taro T Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 Hasek also asked to be traded, except instead of trying to force the Sabres to do it by sitting out, he threatened them by saying he was going to retire Both players quit on the team and screwed the fans and team over. Peca sat out the year, Hasek just forced them even more by threatening to retire and forced the Sabres to get minimal in return. The End result was the same, both of them forced their way out of Buffalo End result was the same, but if the Peca situation doesn't happen, does the Hasek one occur? And BTW, I am CONVINCED that if the Sabres have Peca (or equivalent) in '01 the Sabres carry Lord Stanley's Chalice.
DR HOLLIDAY Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 Hasek also asked to be traded, except instead of trying to force the Sabres to do it by sitting out, he threatened them by saying he was going to retire Both players quit on the team and screwed the fans and team over. Peca sat out the year, Hasek just forced them even more by threatening to retire and forced the Sabres to get minimal in return. Hasek quit during a series, Peca deserved more money plain and simple.
sabregoats Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 Hasek quit during a series, Peca deserved more money plain and simple. it doesn't matter how much money he "deserved", he was under contract and should have played. It is plan and simple, what he did is just as bad if not worse than what Hasek did. If you don't want to worry about reaching a point in your contract where you deserve more money don't sign long term contracts.
shrader Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 it doesn't matter how much money he "deserved", he was under contract and should have played. It is plan and simple, what he did is just as bad if not worse than what Hasek did. If you don't want to worry about reaching a point in your contract where you deserve more money don't sign long term contracts. Peca was not under contract. He was a restricted free agent at the time. The only guy I can think of who ever held out on an actual contract was Yashin.
Kristian Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 Peca was not under contract. He was a restricted free agent at the time. The only guy I can think of who ever held out on an actual contract was Yashin. Yeah, I loved when he held out for a year, then came back thinking he'd be an RFA, only to find out he still owed the Sens a full season.
DR HOLLIDAY Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 Peca was not under contract. He was a restricted free agent at the time. The only guy I can think of who ever held out on an actual contract was Yashin. Yeah what he said......... :beer: I stand by what I said before Hasek quit on the team, Peca did not.
stenbaro Posted July 14, 2008 Report Posted July 14, 2008 Unfortunalty whether either quit or were quit upon is irrelevant, the Sabres paid dearly for both their losses and it became the start of how our Team has been perceived by many.
SabresFan526 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Posted July 14, 2008 Unfortunalty whether either quit or were quit upon is irrelevant, the Sabres paid dearly for both their losses and it became the start of how our Team has been perceived by many. I disagree with you there. The Sabres did not pay dearly for the loss of Peca. In my opinion, the Sabres fielded their most talented team during the Darcy Regier era during the 2001-2002 season without Peca. If Hasek does not give up the soft goal to Kasparaitis or things work out a little differently in the Penguins series, I think the Sabres probably don't win the Cup as Colorado was clearly the team to beat that year, but they may go to the Cup Finals or play a 7 game series against New Jersey. No doubt in my mind. The Sabres paid dearly for the loss of Hasek. With regard to Peca and Hasek, I will never forgive either one of them. I don't know why people don't see it, but Peca is and was so highly overrated. He's never been worth the $4 million he wanted from the Sabres. He's a good third line checking center that you play against top lines. Is he Dastyuk or Zetterberg? Hell no. Is he even Chris Drury good? Not even remotely close. Peca was never worth the money he wanted and while the return on Pyatt (now in Vancouver) and Connolly has been somewhat disappointing, he has gone on to prove that he's injury prone the last few years and was never worth the money he wanted out of Buffalo. As for Hasek, I will never forgive him for the way he held the Sabres hostage. I'm okay with trading him, but forcing the Sabres not to get equal value for him is unforgivable. The Sabres were going to get Sergei Federov out of Detroit, but Hasek threatened to retire if that trade went through because the Wings would have lost one of their better players making it difficult for him to win the Stanley Cup. There is nothing more selfish than that, and I will never forgive him for it. Hasek and Peca may have been two great Sabres, and Hasek perhaps the greatest goalie of all time, but it is going to take a lot of time to heal the wounds and repair the damage they have both done to me as a fan of the Sabres. I do not feel either one of them justifies their sweaters being retired and placed in the rafters at HSBC. And, I will always hate the two of them and boo them incessantly whenever I see them play, albeit I will never see Hasek play again as he's retired.
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