Sabre's Goalies

[SwampD]

Lately there has been a lot of talk on who we would give up for this player or that player. There has been some thoughts on the other teams throwing in a backup goalie in the deal as well. It got me thinking. Before T-Bo, when was the last time that the sabre's backup goalie was not a product of our own system. If not Stanley Cups, one thing the Sabre's have produced is world class goalies that have gone on to produce for other teams. Yes Hasek came from Chicago, But the Sabre's recognized what he was and he did not become who he was until he came here.

 

When did this change happen that we don't groom our own goalies anymore and have to go shopping for talent? Or did we always do this and I just wasn't aware of it? I ask this because for as long as I can remember, we would here stories of the depth we had at goalie. We don't here that anymore and I honestly could not even name who played for the Amercs last year.

 

(Edited in Daylight)

[apuszczalowski]

Lately there has been a lot of talk on who we would give up for this player or that player. There has been some thoughts on the other teams throwing in a backup goalie in the deal as well. It got me thinking. Before T-Bo, when was the last time that the sabre's backup goalie was not a product of our own system. If not Stanley Cups, one thing the Sabre's have produced is world class goalies that have gone on to produce for other teams. Yes Hasek came from Chicago, But the Sabre's recognized what he was and he did not become who he was until he came here.

 

When did this change happen that we don't groom our own goalies anymore and have to go shopping for talent? Or did we always do this and I just wasn't aware of it? I ask this because for as long as I can remember, we would here stories of the depth we had at goalie. We don't here that anymore and I honestly could not even name who played for the Amercs last year.

 

(Edited in Daylight)

Dennis played for the Amerks I believe, but from what I heard of him, he might not be a player that will see much of the NHL.

 

I think the biggest problem was the logjam that they had of Norrennen, Biron, and miller at one point, it made them stop looking for good younger goalies for a few years, and now that only Millers left, the depth has dried up. I do think that it will only be a drought for a year or 2 more, and that they have a good one who I believe will be a Pirate this year. He was great in the World Juniors this year and is being compared as the next Lundqvist

[frisky]

Before T-Bo, it was Conklin. Yup, not much depth a goalie in the system. Enroth is pretty much it. I'd like to see him play NA at Portland this year to get a real good feel for the kid. But, as for NHL talent at this point, Miller is it and that's all we got right now and for the next few years in my opinion. Or, at least for the next year because I'm still very skeptical management will sign our NHL talent. One thing to sign prospects who have a hard salary ceiling, another to sign vets which they've sucked at.

[shrader]

Then there was the very brief reign of Bob Essensa.

 

 

I think apus was on the right track with Noronen and Marty. They were right around the same age and with the organization at the same time. Both of their contracts ended at around the same time and then all of a sudden that depth of homegrown goalies was gone. They continued to draft goalies after Miller (before this year, the only year they didn't draft a goalie was 2001), but all were misses, except Enroth. That big gap of missed goalies from Enroth to Miller is why we now need to look somewhere else for our backup.

[BetweenThePipes00]

And really before the Miller/Biron/Noronen era, there were plenty of guys, especially backups, from elsewhere ... Roloson, Trefilov, Stauber, Fuhr, Malarchuk, Draper ... you have to go back to 1988-89 to find a time when both of the main guys (Puppa and Cloutier) were both from the Sabres system ...now before THAT, you have to go all the way back to 1976-77 to find a goalie not drafted by the Sabres (Desjardins) who played more than 6 games in a season for them ... other than cups of coffee by Phil Myre and Paul Harrison, from 1977-1989 it was Edwards-Sauve-Ireland (2 games)-Cloutier-Barrasso-Puppa, all products of the Sabres system ... that's an impressive run, but after that it kind of fell apart until Biron-Miller-Noronen came along.

[Team Strike Force]

Lately there has been a lot of talk on who we would give up for this player or that player. There has been some thoughts on the other teams throwing in a backup goalie in the deal as well. It got me thinking. Before T-Bo, when was the last time that the sabre's backup goalie was not a product of our own system. If not Stanley Cups, one thing the Sabre's have produced is world class goalies that have gone on to produce for other teams. Yes Hasek came from Chicago, But the Sabre's recognized what he was and he did not become who he was until he came here.

 

When did this change happen that we don't groom our own goalies anymore and have to go shopping for talent? Or did we always do this and I just wasn't aware of it? I ask this because for as long as I can remember, we would here stories of the depth we had at goalie. We don't here that anymore and I honestly could not even name who played for the Amercs last year.

 

(Edited in Daylight)

 

Noronen didn't do anything in the NHL. Biron hit one of his patented hot streaks at the right time last year. Roloson was flash in the pan. Steve Shields didn't amount to much.

 

The only other guy I can think of is Barasso, who did well as we know.

 

With Enroth signed, there's a solid prospect in the system. I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to have to look elsewhere for a backup for the next couple seasons and have younger prospects playing in the minors. I'd rather have Enroth play a whole season in Portland in 2010 rather than play 15-20 games in the NHL backing up Miller, or whoever is in the net.

[X. Benedict]

Noronen didn't do anything in the NHL. Biron hit one of his patented hot streaks at the right time last year. Roloson was flash in the pan. Steve Shields didn't amount to much.

 

The only other guy I can think of is Barasso, who did well as we know.

 

With Enroth signed, there's a solid prospect in the system. I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to have to look elsewhere for a backup for the next couple seasons and have younger prospects playing in the minors. I'd rather have Enroth play a whole season in Portland in 2010 rather than play 15-20 games in the NHL backing up Miller, or whoever is in the net.

 

What would make you say that?

[BetweenThePipes00]

Roloson is kind of a moot point to the discussion, isn't he? The Sabres did not develop him and you can't blame them for letting him go when they did given the talent they had in the system.

[Goodfella25]

Then there was the very brief reign of Bob Essensa.

I think apus was on the right track with Noronen and Marty. They were right around the same age and with the organization at the same time. Both of their contracts ended at around the same time and then all of a sudden that depth of homegrown goalies was gone. They continued to draft goalies after Miller (before this year, the only year they didn't draft a goalie was 2001), but all were misses, except Enroth. That big gap of missed goalies from Enroth to Miller is why we now need to look somewhere else for our backup.

 

Where's the love for Petr Skudra? :thumbsup:

[mercury]

Noronen didn't do anything in the NHL.

 

He scored a goal! That's something!

[Team Strike Force]

What would make you say that?

 

I dunno, He had one solid year with the Wild, then I barely heard his name until he took the Oilers on the cup run (the flash). Otherwise, it seems he's had a very mediocre career.

 

What I didn't realize, though was that he wasn't developed in Buffalo. Back then, I figured that backup goaltenders just appeared out of thin air.

[X. Benedict]

I dunno, He had one solid year with the Wild, then I barely heard his name until he took the Oilers on the cup run (the flash). Otherwise, it seems he's had a very mediocre career.

 

What I didn't realize, though was that he wasn't developed in Buffalo. Back then, I figured that backup goaltenders just appeared out of thin air.

 

Fair enough. I have just thought him to be pretty solid since leaving Buffalo.

[awill29]

Fair enough. I have just thought him to be pretty solid since leaving Buffalo.

 

He is an above average goalie. He would've gotten his ring if the Canes hadn't lucked out and gotten him injured in game 1 <_<