tom webster Posted May 11, 2008 Report Posted May 11, 2008 Thanks. I have been. Why don't you remind us how you brought up Thornton as an elite player, only to watch him bomb once again in the playoffs, or how you tried to compare him negatively to Palfy only to find out that didn't work or how about how you spent all day calculating the points per game leaders only to find out he was eleventh his last two years with Buffalo( of course he was playing for a contract) or how about when this all started back in January(of course you waited till his slump started) you told us how the flyer fans where going to run him out of town and then he scored that shootout goal against some also ran and turned their whole season around and then you told us how all his success in the first round was because everyone was keying on Richards and Carter and now that he has opened things up for Richards and Umberger you pulled out the old sixth game against Carolina and how he is struggling in the finals. Oh well, you know what they say about a blind squirrel.......
deluca67 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Why don't you remind us how you brought up Thornton as an elite player, only to watch him bomb once again in the playoffs, or how you tried to compare him negatively to Palfy only to find out that didn't work or how about how you spent all day calculating the points per game leaders only to find out he was eleventh his last two years with Buffalo( of course he was playing for a contract) or how about when this all started back in January(of course you waited till his slump started) you told us how the flyer fans where going to run him out of town and then he scored that shootout goal against some also ran and turned their whole season around and then you told us how all his success in the first round was because everyone was keying on Richards and Carter and now that he has opened things up for Richards and Umberger you pulled out the old sixth game against Carolina and how he is struggling in the finals. Oh well, you know what they say about a blind squirrel....... 0 points and a minus 1. You can try as hard as you like to make this about anything other than B-Rod. B-Rod is making you look "foolish". "Blind squirrel"? You are obviously the one with the cane rummaging through the forest. Briere is what he is. I know it, you know it and the Sabres know it. That is why he is now a Flyer. Keep scrambling TW or maybe it best you just change your screen name proclaim you knew about Briere all along. :thumbdown:
tom webster Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 0 points and a minus 1. You can try as hard as you like to make this about anything other than B-Rod. B-Rod is making you look "foolish". "Blind squirrel"? You are obviously the one with the cane rummaging through the forest. Briere is what he is. I know it, you know it and the Sabres know it. That is why he is now a Flyer. Keep scrambling TW or maybe it best you just change your screen name proclaim you knew about Briere all along. :thumbdown: Just keep ignoring the post and writing whatever you want. Like I said, you are bound to stumble on something that gives the appearance that you may have a clue.
deluca67 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Just keep ignoring the post and writing whatever you want. Like I said, you are bound to stumble on something that gives the appearance that you may have a clue. LOL! The band plays while the ship sinks. Very poetic. It's funny how I have been stumbling on this for over two years. :lol: A just so we are clear. Thornton (is) and Ziggy (was) are elite players and I would love to have seen them both in a Sabre uniform. They are/were actual stars in the league. Not only did they bring the offensive game they both had toughness and a respect for the defensive game.
tom webster Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 LOL! The band plays while the ship sinks. Very poetic. It's funny how I have been stumbling on this for over two years. :lol: A just so we are clear. Thornton (is) and Ziggy (was) are elite players and I would love to have seen them both in a Sabre uniform. They are/were actual stars in the league. Not only did they bring the offensive game they both had toughness and a respect for the defensive game. So, before you go to work today, why don't you give us some analysis of Thornton, Palfy and Briere's stats in conference final series. While you are at it, include any other player that has been in them the last three years.
bottlecap Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Briere has stopped scoring. He got clocked last night in a concrete example of him getting intimidated by the elite teams. He can score against the Bad-VG teams but when it comes to the elite teams, he gets pushed around and easily neutralized. Looks like Philly is going down faster than Monica Lewinsky in a blue dress. But by going to the Conference finals after being the worst team last year, they've already won.
carpandean Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 But by going to the Conference finals after being the worst team last year, they've already won. Yup, shows you what can be done when replace half of your team. :thumbsup: Note: I am assuming that by "they" you mean the Flyers organization and not the team of players. Otherwise, I'll have to go back a few pages and copy/paste my list of where this year's team played most/all of their games last year (hint: it wasn't Philly.)
BetweenThePipes00 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 I stopped reading the bickering, but I did enjoy the Adam Creighton sighting ... When we hit 39, I challenge you to find a non-Hasek photo ... not impossible but much more fun ....
carpandean Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 I stopped reading the bickering, but I did enjoy the Adam Creighton sighting ...When we hit 39, I challenge you to find a non-Hasek photo ... not impossible but much more fun ... I've already saved photos for 39-48. I thought that Hasek was too obvious, so I did track another #39 down. However, we should be on page 38 soon enough, so I will save it. I can narrow it down, though. I could only find an Amerks photo for McSween and a #90 (his second number) for Gillies. I couldn't find anything for Kaese.
deluca67 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 So, before you go to work today, why don't you give us some analysis of Thornton, Palfy and Briere's stats in conference final series. While you are at it, include any other player that has been in them the last three years. B-Rod 14 Games Played 5 Goals 5 Assists 10 points -10 Plus/Minus Cory Stillman 7 Games Played 3 Goals 7 Assists 10 Points +6 In one series Cory Stillman has out produced what Briere has done in his 14 games. Matched his point total and is a plus 16 better. Do I even have to mention Game Seven. While B-Rod was useless for his 15 minutes of ice time. Stillman was on the ice for 20 minutes had 2 assists was a +2 and actually managed 4 shots on net. Makes you wonder if the Sabres would have survived game seven if they had Stillman on the ice instead of B-Rod. The closer I look at B-Rod's stats and playoff performances the more asinine your arguments look.
stenbaro Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 B-Rod 14 Games Played 5 Goals 5 Assists 10 points -10 Plus/Minus Cory Stillman 7 Games Played 3 Goals 7 Assists 10 Points +6 In one series Cory Stillman has out produced what Briere has done in his 14 games. Matched his point total and is a plus 16 better. Do I even have to mention Game Seven. While B-Rod was useless for his 15 minutes of ice time. Stillman was on the ice for 20 minutes had 2 assists was a +2 and actually managed 4 shots on net. Makes you wonder if the Sabres would have survived game seven if they had Stillman on the ice instead of B-Rod. The closer I look at B-Rod's stats and playoff performances the more asinine your arguments look. Where's Thorntons and Palffys stats??????
stenbaro Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Let's go 38!!!!!! Maybe Thorntons and Palffy's stats are on page 38???
apuszczalowski Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Maybe Thorntons and Palffy's stats are on page 38??? nope 63-64 That should be were this post is at around the middle of the SCF's, where Thorton and palffy are going to come back and shine! They are so elite that they bypass the playoffs and only play in the SCF's
stenbaro Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 nope 63-64 That should be were this post is at around the middle of the SCF's, where Thorton and palffy are going to come back and shine! They are so elite that they bypass the playoffs and only play in the SCF's Well theres only one way to find out..Onward we go
nfreeman Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 So, before you go to work today, why don't you give us some analysis of Thornton, Palfy and Briere's stats in conference final series. While you are at it, include any other player that has been in them the last three years. B-Rod 14 Games Played 5 Goals 5 Assists 10 points -10 Plus/Minus Cory Stillman 7 Games Played 3 Goals 7 Assists 10 Points +6 In one series Cory Stillman has out produced what Briere has done in his 14 games. Matched his point total and is a plus 16 better. Do I even have to mention Game Seven. While B-Rod was useless for his 15 minutes of ice time. Stillman was on the ice for 20 minutes had 2 assists was a +2 and actually managed 4 shots on net. Makes you wonder if the Sabres would have survived game seven if they had Stillman on the ice instead of B-Rod. The closer I look at B-Rod's stats and playoff performances the more asinine your arguments look. Not to jump back into the middle of the wee-wee contest, but I'm quite confident (and I tried halfheartedly to find some stats on this, but couldn't do so easily) that EVERY good player's playoff scoring stats are lower in the 3rd round than in the 1st round. He's playing against better goalies, better teams, etc. Certainly there are going to be year-to-year hiccups, which DeLuca will gladly up and quote out of context, but I'm pretty confident Gretzky scored more points in the 1st round than in the 3rd round too. Having said all that, Briere certainly hasn't done much vs. the Penguins. OTOH, he's done a heckuva lot more than the Sabres have. Now back to our regularly scheduled argument...
carpandean Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 1 .. 2 .. 3 .. 4 .. 5 .. 6 .. 7 .. 8 .. 9 .. 10 .. 11 .. 12 .. 13 .. 14 .. 15 .. 16 .. 17 .. 18 .. 19 .. 20 .. 21 .. 22 .. 23 .. 24 .. 25 .. 26 .. 27 .. 28 .. 29 .. 30 .. 31 .. 32 .. 33 .. 34 .. 35 .. 36 .. 37 .. 38 .. WE WANT 39!!!!! and, no, not this guy:
Mike Oxhurtz Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 B-Rod 14 Games Played 5 Goals 5 Assists 10 points -10 Plus/Minus Cory Stillman 7 Games Played 3 Goals 7 Assists 10 Points +6 In one series Cory Stillman has out produced what Briere has done in his 14 games. Matched his point total and is a plus 16 better. Do I even have to mention Game Seven. While B-Rod was useless for his 15 minutes of ice time. Stillman was on the ice for 20 minutes had 2 assists was a +2 and actually managed 4 shots on net. Makes you wonder if the Sabres would have survived game seven if they had Stillman on the ice instead of B-Rod. The closer I look at B-Rod's stats and playoff performances the more asinine your arguments look. It's the Eastern Conference Finals curse which was casted onto Danny Briere.
tom webster Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 B-Rod 14 Games Played 5 Goals 5 Assists 10 points -10 Plus/Minus Cory Stillman 7 Games Played 3 Goals 7 Assists 10 Points +6 In one series Cory Stillman has out produced what Briere has done in his 14 games. Matched his point total and is a plus 16 better. Do I even have to mention Game Seven. While B-Rod was useless for his 15 minutes of ice time. Stillman was on the ice for 20 minutes had 2 assists was a +2 and actually managed 4 shots on net. Makes you wonder if the Sabres would have survived game seven if they had Stillman on the ice instead of B-Rod. The closer I look at B-Rod's stats and playoff performances the more asinine your arguments look. Man, everytime I think you are going to give me a good argument you go and throw a gutter ball. Why didn't you include Stillman's playoff performance from last year. Ooops, due in large part to the 5 goals, 22 assists and a -8 rating, Carolina missed the playoffs. Oh well there was always this year's great performance when he helped Ottawa to the Cup. Oh no, this must be a misprint, only 2 goals and a -4 rating in a four game sweep? Say it ain't so! By the way, hope logic and reasoning aren't a requirement at work or you will never be able to pay off that bet.
Mike Oxhurtz Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Man, everytime I think you are going to give me a good argument you go and throw a gutter ball. Why didn't you include Stillman's playoff performance from last year. Ooops, due in large part to the 5 goals, 22 assists and a -8 rating, Carolina missed the playoffs. Oh well there was always this year's great performance when he helped Ottawa to the Cup. Oh no, this must be a misprint, only 2 goals and a -4 rating in a four game sweep? Say it ain't so! By the way, hope logic and reasoning aren't a requirement at work or you will never be able to pay off that bet. Here are possible reasons why DeLuca hates Briere so much: 1. Briere pissed in DeLuca's cornflakes 2. Briere didn't give him an autograph 3. DeLuca hates short players (see Doug Flutie) 4. DeLuca automatically starts analyzing all ex-sabres weaknesses, that way it gives him comfort to no longer like that player.
deluca67 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Posted May 13, 2008 Man, everytime I think you are going to give me a good argument you go and throw a gutter ball. Why didn't you include Stillman's playoff performance from last year. Ooops, due in large part to the 5 goals, 22 assists and a -8 rating, Carolina missed the playoffs. Oh well there was always this year's great performance when he helped Ottawa to the Cup. Oh no, this must be a misprint, only 2 goals and a -4 rating in a four game sweep? Say it ain't so! By the way, hope logic and reasoning aren't a requirement at work or you will never be able to pay off that bet. He doesn't need any additional stats. He out performed B-Rod straight up and has a Ring to show for it. He did more in one ECF series than B-Rod has done in 2+.
deluca67 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Posted May 13, 2008 Where's Thorntons and Palffys stats?????? 2008 Conference Finals Scoring Thornton 0 G 0 A Even Palffy 0 G 0 A Even B-Rod 0 G 0 A -3 Looks like they have having better series than B-Rod. They both have as much positive impact on their teams chances in the Conference Finals than B-Rod has had. :lol:
deluca67 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Posted May 13, 2008 Not to jump back into the middle of the wee-wee contest, but I'm quite confident (and I tried halfheartedly to find some stats on this, but couldn't do so easily) that EVERY good player's playoff scoring stats are lower in the 3rd round than in the 1st round. He's playing against better goalies, better teams, etc. Certainly there are going to be year-to-year hiccups, which DeLuca will gladly up and quote out of context, but I'm pretty confident Gretzky scored more points in the 1st round than in the 3rd round too. Having said all that, Briere certainly hasn't done much vs. the Penguins. OTOH, he's done a heckuva lot more than the Sabres have. Now back to our regularly scheduled argument... I wouldn't be so sure about that. You would figure that Gretzky probably played in a lot of short series in the early rounds.
tom webster Posted May 13, 2008 Report Posted May 13, 2008 I wouldn't be so sure about that. You would figure that Gretzky probably played in a lot of short series in the early rounds. Well, one thing I know for sure was that in the 1984 finals he was held scoreless after scoring 13 goals with 22 assists in the rest of the playoffs. Come to think of it, you only have to research 122 goals as the 260 assists really don't count for anything. Then, of course, he was only successful those 4 years when they won the Cup so you can eliminate all the other years.
X. Benedict Posted May 13, 2008 Report Posted May 13, 2008 Well, one thing I know for sure was that in the 1984 finals he was held scoreless after scoring 13 goals with 22 assists in the rest of the playoffs. Come to think of it, you only have to research 122 goals as the 260 assists really don't count for anything. Then, of course, he was only successful those 4 years when they won the Cup so you can eliminate all the other years. Take away the Cups and the goals and you just have an overrated set up man.
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