Danny Briere 2 goals last night

[SDS]

What did you expect him to do? There wasn't a power play all period. He's saving his energy for the next one. Even if it's next year.

 

I would run that clip on a loop the entire intermission if I was the caps video guy... maybe sprinkle in his jab to the nuts on OV.

[ofiba]

I would run that clip on a loop the entire intermission if I was the caps video guy... maybe sprinkle in his jab to the nuts on OV.

 

Well, here it comes. Danny time.

[millbank]

you are not serious. assists on winning goal leads all scorers in playoffs. Lets play the winning goal loop

 

 

 

I would run that clip on a loop the entire intermission if I was the caps video guy... maybe sprinkle in his jab to the nuts on OV.

[calti]

you are not serious. assists on winning goal leads all scorers in playoffs. Lets play the winning goal loop

lol---True. Some of the people on this board just dont realize what an awwwwful playoff series Danny has had.Only 6 goals and assists on the winner.Horrible. What a slacker and an overrated player.

[SDS]

lol---True. Some of the people on this board just dont realize what an awwwwful playoff series Danny has had.Only 6 goals and assists on the winner.Horrible. What a slacker and an overrated player.

 

1. WTF does this have to do w/ the play in question?

 

2. While assists like that are given out all the time, spare me the back-slapping on a guy who drills the puck into a guy's pads 12" away and has the puck bounce back to the blueline. Giving him kudos for that game winning assist is like giving Prince William kudos for choosing the right parents.

[calti]

1. WTF does this have to do w/ the play in question?

 

2. While assists like that are given out all the time, spare me the back-slapping on a guy who drills the puck into a guy's pads 12" away and has the puck bounce back to the blueline. Giving him kudos for that game winning assist is like giving Prince William kudos for choosing the right parents.

When Briere is in the mix--things happen. Luck comes to those who make the luck. An average player misses the net entirely and there is no rebound.

[Bmwolf21]

When Briere is in the mix--things happen. Luck comes to those who make the luck. An average player misses the net entirely and there is no rebound.

Are you talking about the GWG? Because Briere didn't hit the net either. His shot was blocked but the rebound shot out to a Flyer at the blue line.

[SabresFan526]

When Briere is in the mix--things happen. Luck comes to those who make the luck. An average player misses the net entirely and there is no rebound.

Eh, I wouldn't give Briere too much credit on that goal. It was a secondary assist anyway as the original shot that caused the rebound was I believe by Timonen. The problem was Huet lost sight of where the rebound went and the puck came right on Lupul's stick for the open net goal. I'm not saying Huet would have made the save if he knew where the rebound went, but if he knew exactly where the rebound went, I think he would have had a better chance of stopping the rebound shot as opposed to not having a clue and looking completely lost. Also, Huet probably should not be giving up rebounds on shots from the point either to even put himself in that position, especially when his team is on the PK. Either way, I think the Caps will re-sign him as he made some spectacular saves and was a key reason the Caps made it this far into the playoffs and to even make it to Game 7.

[calti]

Are you talking about the GWG? Because Briere didn't hit the net either. His shot was blocked but the rebound shot out to a Flyer at the blue line.

??? Missing the net means shooting wide--no goal and unlikely rebound. Come on--sharpen up.

[calti]

Eh, I wouldn't give Briere too much credit on that goal. It was a secondary assist anyway as the original shot that caused the rebound was I believe by Timonen. The problem was Huet lost sight of where the rebound went and the puck came right on Lupul's stick for the open net goal. I'm not saying Huet would have made the save if he knew where the rebound went, but if he knew exactly where the rebound went, I think he would have had a better chance of stopping the rebound shot as opposed to not having a clue and looking completely lost. Also, Huet probably should not be giving up rebounds on shots from the point either to even put himself in that position, especially when his team is on the PK. Either way, I think the Caps will re-sign him as he made some spectacular saves and was a key reason the Caps made it this far into the playoffs and to even make it to Game 7.

I didnt give him all the credit. He was there in front of the net. Im just saying things happen when he and other good players are on the ice.

[Bmwolf21]

??? Missing the net means shooting wide--no goal and unlikely rebound. Come on--sharpen up.

Wow, you're really reaching. You said an average player misses the net completely (which is, in and of itself, complete BS) and I pointed out that his shot never got through. So if you want to argue semantics, fine - he didn't "miss" the net. His shot never made it four feet away from his stick, so we'll never know if he would have missed the net. Briere got a point on a lucky bounce, nothing more, nothing less. Whoopee.

 

Oh, and save your condescending "sharpen up" crap for the Sabres.com message board.

[carpandean]

I have to ask this..Is your first name carp and your last dean?

Nope on both accounts.

 

I always thought it was a take off on Carpe diem

Definitely not. Carpandean is three syllables: car-pan-dean (last one is pronounced like the name.)

 

Or as a fish

Strike three ... funny, though.

 

 

Only a select few know the truth. I'm talking guys that will be ushers in my wedding. They ain't talking!

[deluca67]

When Briere is in the mix--things happen. Luck comes to those who make the luck. An average player misses the net entirely and there is no rebound.

Which was proven by the zero points and -1 against the Canes in game seven. :wallbash:

[tom webster]

Which was proven by the zero points and -1 against the Canes in game seven. :wallbash:

 

 

Thanks for proving how irrational you are.

[tom webster]

wow. that was GUTLESS Danny. Absolutely GUTLESS. 2:00 to go in the 3rd period of a game 7 and you back away from the boards and the puck allowing the Caps to just skate the puck out of the zone? :thumbdown:

 

The minute I saw that play,I knew someone would shred him for it. Its no secret how much I like Danny, but sometimes he makes plays that leave me shaking my head.

Then again, what the hell was Ovechkin doing passing that puck with 2:57 left?

There isn't a player in this league whose play could withstand the microscope we put them under.

[SabresFan526]

Which was proven by the zero points and -1 against the Canes in game seven. :wallbash:

Great point! And if Briere does not score the OT Game Winner in Game 6 against the Canes, there probably is no Game 7. :wallbash:

[nfreeman]

Boy, this thread sure has legs. Since Philly made it to the next round (despite, as DeLuca and SDS for some reason would have us believe, being held back by Briere's poor backchecking), can we expect another 200+ posts over the next 10 days? And in any of those posts, will DeLuca or SDS acknowledge the fact that Briere scores a ton in the playoffs EVERY year for the past three years? And that that kind of production is highly valuable, notwithstanding deficiencies in other aspects of his game?

[deluca67]

Great point! And if Briere does not score the OT Game Winner in Game 6 against the Canes, there probably is no Game 7. :wallbash:

Better Point! If Briere wasn't held to zero points and a -3 in games four and five? Game 6 probably wouldn't have been necessary. :thumbsup:

[SabresFan526]

Better Point! If Briere wasn't held to zero points and a -3 in games four and five? Game 6 probably wouldn't have been necessary. :thumbsup:

Even better point! If the Sabres do not play with an AHL defense core for the entire series, Briere is not held to zero points and a -3 and the Sabres win the Stanley Cup. Keep coming back with the hypotheticals because I've always got another. :thumbsup:

[GoatheadInCT]

Better Point! If Briere wasn't held to zero points and a -3 in games four and five? Game 6 probably wouldn't have been necessary. :thumbsup:

 

The point of points:

 

Without Briere, the Flyers would have never made the playoffs in the FIRST PLACE!!

 

(People tend to notice 31 goals and 41 assists, especially when they only had 2 goal scorers of 20 or more in 06-07!)

 

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[carpandean]

The point of points:

 

Without Briere, the Flyers would have never made the playoffs in the FIRST PLACE!!

 

(People tend to notice 31 goals and 41 assists, especially when they only had 2 goal scorers of 20 or more in 06-07!)

 

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I suppose that depends on who you put in his place. If they just moved everyone up one spot, then you are probably right. If they had passed on Briere, but used the $52 million over the next 8 years (or $10 million for this season or $6.5 million in long-term cap hit) to pick up another center and/or upgrade other positions, then it is quite likely that your statement is incorrect. I'd say it's quite possible that they could have put $4 million toward another good center and upgraded one or two lower players, and done just as well, if not better. Same is true for the Sabres. Yes, they probably would have made the playoffs if they had signed Briere, but they also likely would have if they had spent that same money on another true center and some upgrades to the D (which I feel would have been the smartest move). But, guess what, we'll never know, as neither happened.

 

I also don't think that they would have made it without Mike Richards, who they extended for much less (yes, I know it is because he is younger), or their captain Jason Smith or, most importantly, Timonen.

 

By the way, when making a point about this year's Flyers, don't mention or compare with the 2006-07 Flyers, as you will lose all credibility. As mentioned in this thread already, the teams have such little resemblance to each other that any comparison is pointless. Case in point, they had 7 20+ goal scorers and two 30+ goal scores (if you include Prospal, but they also had three others with 28+), as compared to the 2 in 06-07 that you mentioned. Not to mentioned an upgraded defense including Timonen.

[millbank]

for goodness sake, give Danny his due. Can it really be that hard. Don't rag on this guy for credibility, admit Briere was a most important part of Flyer success this year and clearly the leader in it in this first round. The Flyers last season were a bottom team, the Flyers this season with the additions of a number of players including Biron and Briere , made playoffs, won a first round series , have revitalized hockey in Philadelphia , I submit to you the money well spent.

Now that the Flyers are facing the very young and fast Montreal Canadians who Flyers did not beat all year long , because Montreal is a better team, I have no doubt in my mind many of you will be pointing to this as absolute evidence of how Briere did not come up big when it counts in the event that Montreal beat them out.

( I see Montreal beating them in 5 games. )

 

 

I suppose that depends on who you put in his place. If they just moved everyone up one spot, then you are probably right. If they had passed on Briere, but used the $52 million over the next 8 years (or $10 million for this season or $6.5 million in long-term cap hit) to pick up another center and/or upgrade other positions, then it is quite likely that your statement is incorrect. I'd say it's quite possible that they could have put $4 million toward another good center and upgraded one or two lower players, and done just as well, if not better. Same is true for the Sabres. Yes, they probably would have made the playoffs if they had signed Briere, but they also likely would have if they had spent that same money on another true center and some upgrades to the D (which I feel would have been the smartest move). But, guess what, we'll never know, as neither happened.

 

I also don't think that they would have made it without Mike Richards, who they extended for much less (yes, I know it is because he is younger), or their captain Jason Smith or, most importantly, Timonen.

 

By the way, when making a point about this year's Flyers, don't mention or compare with the 2006-07 Flyers, as you will lose all credibility. As mentioned in this thread already, the teams have such little resemblance to each other that any comparison is pointless. Case in point, they had 7 20+ goal scorers and two 30+ goal scores (if you include Prospal, but they also had three others with 28+), as compared to the 2 in 06-07 that you mentioned. Not to mentioned an upgraded defense including Timonen.

[carpandean]

for goodness sake, give Danny his due. Can it really be that hard. Don't rag on this guy for credibility, admit Briere was a most important part of Flyer success this year and clearly the leader in it in this first round. The Flyers last season were a bottom team, the Flyers this season with the additions of a number of players including Biron and Briere , made playoffs, won a first round series , have revitalized hockey in Philadelphia , I submit to you the money well spent.

Now that the Flyers are facing the very young and fast Montreal Canadians who Flyers did not beat all year long , because Montreal is a better team, I have no doubt in my mind many of you will be pointing to this as absolute evidence of how Briere did not come up big when it counts in the event that Montreal beat them out.

( I see Montreal beating them in 5 games. )

I do give Briere a lot of credit, especially his 6 goals in the first round, but I also acknowledge that he was only one part of a wholesale change of the team. As a whole the moves have worked well, but that was the combination of a lot of big moves and they still weren't even competing for their own division title, much less the conference or the President's trophy. I am simply suggesting that the same money they put toward him could have been used in other ways to do at least as well. It's never been a question of whether he is a good player -- he has excellent offensive skills and brings leadership -- it was always a question of whether he was worth that much money. You might convince me that he was worth the 5 x 5 contract, but I still think the Flyers paid too much.

[tom webster]

for goodness sake, give Danny his due. Can it really be that hard. Don't rag on this guy for credibility, admit Briere was a most important part of Flyer success this year and clearly the leader in it in this first round. The Flyers last season were a bottom team, the Flyers this season with the additions of a number of players including Biron and Briere , made playoffs, won a first round series , have revitalized hockey in Philadelphia , I submit to you the money well spent.

Now that the Flyers are facing the very young and fast Montreal Canadians who Flyers did not beat all year long , because Montreal is a better team, I have no doubt in my mind many of you will be pointing to this as absolute evidence of how Briere did not come up big when it counts in the event that Montreal beat them out.

( I see Montreal beating them in 5 games. )

 

And what everyone will ignore is that Montreal apparently offered Danny more money to sign.

[tom webster]

I do give Briere a lot of credit, especially his 6 goals in the first round, but I also acknowledge that he was only one part of a wholesale change of the team. As a whole the moves have worked well, but that was the combination of a lot of big moves and they still weren't even competing for their own division title, much less the conference or the President's trophy. I am simply suggesting that the same money they put toward him could have been used in other ways to do at least as well. It's never been a question of whether he is a good player -- he has excellent offensive skills and brings leadership -- it was always a question of whether he was worth that much money. You might convince me that he was worth the 5 x 5 contract, but I still think the Flyers paid too much.

 

 

The only players available were Gomez, Drury and Briere so who else could they have put their money towards?