Taro T Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 The point is we need to sign him. How about half of DiPs contract? 35 is the new 30. Its not 1978. Athletes know how to take care of themselves. You still have Hasek and Brodeur stopping pucks on the other side of 37. Brodeur is still as the top of league in stats. You can tell Miller is focused and determined to be the best. The Olympic chip on the shoulder still helps with motivation. I don't have any question he'll be top of the league in 2018. The number he would sign to now for 2018 would be peanuts to what starting goalies would be making then. Plus if you look at the young talent in the NHL and the upswing the NHL is making in growing cities like DC, LA, and SanFran\Silicon Valley. The cap is only going to increase. The Sabres and Cap problems will never happen with Regier rubbing his nickels together. He is a blue chip player we lost two (Soupy and Drury.) Lets keep one of them. Possible but doubtful. Following is list of top 20 GAA's in the league in '97-'98 (which takes us to just past the league average GAA of 2.51 that year): Belfour 1.88 Brodeur 1.89 Barrasso 2.07 Hasek 2.09 Hextall 2.17 Kidd 2.17 McLennan 2.17 Kolzig 2.20 Hackett 2.20 Osgood 2.21 Dafoe 2.24 Tugnutt 2.25 Rhodes 2.34 Roy 2.39 Vernon 2.46 Thibault 2.47 Moog 2.49 Fuhr 2.53 Snow 2.59 Joseph 2.63 Brodeur, Osgood, and Hasek are still putting up good #'s. 2 of those are lock HoF'ers and very rare breeds of cat. But for all 3 a case could be made to varying degrees that their current success is a product of the team they are currently on. A couple of others are still playing, but with nothing particularily notable about their play. The odds are not in Ryan's favor to be at / near the top in '18. Although I'd love to see it in those modified classic blue and golds which we should finally see by then.
StunningCombo Posted April 9, 2008 Author Report Posted April 9, 2008 Good Point. The Sabres have to show some kind of commitment to their players. Top Shelf players want to win and get paid what they deserve. Sabres won't pay and in turn aren't winning. If we don't give him at least a 6-year deal, he is gone like the others. We also won't be able to attract that top 4 UFA defenseman everyone wants with a 4-year deal. That's just UFA reality in the NHL.
Bmwolf21 Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 If we don't give him at least a 6-year deal, he is gone like the others. We also won't be able to attract that top 4 UFA defenseman everyone wants with a 4-year deal. That's just UFA reality in the NHL. True.
tom webster Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 Brodeur is 35, not 37+. If Miller is at the top of the league ten years from now, then good for him. He'll be 37 at that time, so it will be amazing if he is (and I doubt he will be.) 35 might be the new 30, but no matter how much athlete conditioning, nutrition and preparation have improved (which they have) nothing stops the natural slowing of reflexes. The line between success and failure is so slim for goalies - off by 1/10th of a second and it's a goal - so most guys cannot hang on that long. Guys like Hasek and Roy, who played well past 35, are guys who re-invented themselves. Dom is no longer the flopping, stop-it-any-way-possible goalie he was in the past. He also benefits by playing behind from an awesome defense that limits SOG and prime scoring chances. I like Miller as much as anyone on this board, but I don't want to see the Sabres financially handcuff themselves with a 7-year contract - not for anyone. I didn't like the Vanek contract then and I don't like it now. Personally I wouldn't go long than 4-5 years when they re-sign him - that gives them plenty of time to rebuild the defense around him and gives Enroth plenty of time to learn the NA game and grow into an NHL starter. The thing that teams like Philly and New York are doing with contracts of six or seven years is lowering the cap number. You make the last two or three years something like 1 or 2 million dollars, it brings down the overall cap number, and they can buy out the last couple of years for less than $3 million if they want to. There are some CBA restrictions with this and you have to put up some big dollars at the beginning but it is protection against a huge cap number and guarantees players money in the twilight of their careers.
shrader Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 The thing that teams like Philly and New York are doing with contracts of six or seven years is lowering the cap number. You make the last two or three years something like 1 or 2 million dollars, it brings down the overall cap number, and they can buy out the last couple of years for less than $3 million if they want to. There are some CBA restrictions with this and you have to put up some big dollars at the beginning but it is protection against a huge cap number and guarantees players money in the twilight of their careers. And its an absolute joke that I hope they correct after the next work stoppage... assuming the league survives it.
Kristian Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 Yeah!!!! The nerve of those people in Israel to keep talking about the 1940's........ Let's all gather round the campfire, hand Quinn a C-Note, then sing some Goo Goo Dolls songs. By the way....has Regier said anything at all? I seem to see Larry Quinn quoted in all the things I have read the past week. Hmmmnnnn????? I'm thinking Darcy's been named the new "backup goalie coach".
inkman Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 Sabres won't pay and in turn aren't winning. You act as if your act hasn't been seen here before. We get it. You hate manangement. Most of us aren't really happy with them either. Let's move on.
StunningCombo Posted April 9, 2008 Author Report Posted April 9, 2008 You act as if your act hasn't been seen here before. We get it. You hate manangement. Most of us aren't really happy with them either. Let's move on. Good thing you're here to police the boards. Otherwise people might want to discuss what they want to discuss. I guess its V for Voiding peoples' thoughts. Maybe its a good sign that Larry is doing all the talking. Maybe he is going to have to take a must needed step. Maybe all this leafs management in Buffalo has an ulterior motive.
inkman Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 Good thing you're here to police the boards. Otherwise people might want to discuss what they want to discuss. I guess its V for Voiding peoples' thoughts. StunningPost.
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