Quinn's comments on the off-season

[SabresFanInRochester]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-s...p&type=lgns

 

He states that extending Miller and Pominville are two priorities. He also mentions Goose should be extended.

 

?It?s not a decision that we?re going to make, we?ve already made it,? Quinn told The Associated Press a day before the Sabres are scheduled to clean out their lockers. ?We clearly want those guys to be part of the long-term success here.? ... later, when addressing improving the team, he stated, `Will we do the things we have to do to help them?? Yes, we will.?

 

I am optimistic, but didn't we hear that Campbell, Drury and Briere were priorities? I hope this does not turn into one of those -- we will offer to them, but it is going to be at a significant discount so when they do not extend and then trade deadline rolls around, we can say our hands are tied?

 

Please get it done!

[tom webster]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-s...p&type=lgns

 

He states that extending Miller and Pominville are two priorities. He also mentions Goose should be extended.

 

?It?s not a decision that we?re going to make, we?ve already made it,? Quinn told The Associated Press a day before the Sabres are scheduled to clean out their lockers. ?We clearly want those guys to be part of the long-term success here.? ... later, when addressing improving the team, he stated, `Will we do the things we have to do to help them?? Yes, we will.?

 

I am optimistic, but didn't we hear that Campbell, Drury and Briere were priorities? I hope this does not turn into one of those -- we will offer to them, but it is going to be at a significant discount so when they do not extend and then trade deadline rolls around, we can say our hands are tied?

 

Please get it done!

 

Does that mean that Paille is not a candidate for extension????

[shrader]

Does that mean that Paille is not a candidate for extension????

 

Well technically Gaustad and Paille won't be getting extensions since their contracts are essentially up now. That was a poor choice of words that wasn't actually in the article. It just said that Gaustad is a priority, which doesn't mean that Quinn didn't mention Paille specifically. The AP just skimmed his comments.

[SabresFan526]

Well, it's certainly a departure from not negotiating ahead of time. Interesting to me that these are Quinn's comments. Hopefully, it puts to rest apus's vendetta against Regier since Quinn is the one saying that "we have made the decision." It looks like they have learned their lesson, but I'll believe it when it gets done. It's certainly nice rhetoric, much better than last summer's, but I'll believe it when I see it.

[LabattBlue]

Trust NOTHING Quinn says...NOTHING! <_<

[tom webster]

Well technically Gaustad and Paille won't be getting extensions since their contracts are essentially up now. That was a poor choice of words that wasn't actually in the article. It just said that Gaustad is a priority, which doesn't mean that Quinn didn't mention Paille specifically. The AP just skimmed his comments.

 

John Wawrow is better than that. Now, might have been edited?

[inkman]

Well, it's certainly a departure from not negotiating ahead of time.

Which is what they have implied they will do. Everyone needs to chill.

[Goodfella25]

Does this mean we aren't planning on offering Kalinin a new contract? NOOOOOOOOOOO

[shrader]

John Wawrow is better than that. Now, might have been edited?

 

They're not going to put everything word for word that Quinn said, so I don't see any reason for worry. Anyway, Gaustad has 2 more years under his belt and probably should be someone they work with first instead of Paille. He's much closer to UFA status. Really though, I don't know why they bothered mentioning Gaustad in that story. He's nowhere near the priority that Miller or Pominville is. It was probably just a name thrown out there as a "yes, we have other RFA's too" comment.

[apuszczalowski]

Well, it's certainly a departure from not negotiating ahead of time. Interesting to me that these are Quinn's comments. Hopefully, it puts to rest apus's vendetta against Regier since Quinn is the one saying that "we have made the decision." It looks like they have learned their lesson, but I'll believe it when it gets done. It's certainly nice rhetoric, much better than last summer's, but I'll believe it when I see it.

So because he used the word WE its supposed to change something? You realise he does have a position on the team, so he is going to use the word we. I never said that I didn't think TG, LQ and DR all had hands in the decissions, I just said their is no proof that LQ was the one making all the bad decissions and handcuffing Darcy (who was always going to make the right move, but LQ won't let him) like everyone here goes on about

[Sherman]

I think they will get it done. I took from the article that they like their young core and with a few moves they feel like they will be competing for the cup next year.

 

When can teams start trading again? Is that July 1st like free agency or can they make trades before then?

[frisky]

I'm still in the I'll believe it when I see it. The Sabres have been a spin machine the last couple of years. Besides, they've made a decision. But, I'm not reading into it that that means they'll sign those guys. Long-term success to them could mean trading them for a bunch of more prospects and draft choices ala Bernier. That could also mean contributing to the long-term success by filling up the team with potential kids. That might be stretching it, but I can totally hear those types of comments coming from them when they f things up. But, anyways, it's just blah blah blah to me until they show me.

[PromoTheRobot]

Trust NOTHING Quinn says...NOTHING! <_<

Actions speak louder. Git 'er done, Larry, and sign a solid vet for leadership.

 

PTR

[SabresFan526]

So because he used the word WE its supposed to change something? You realise he does have a position on the team, so he is going to use the word we. I never said that I didn't think TG, LQ and DR all had hands in the decissions, I just said their is no proof that LQ was the one making all the bad decissions and handcuffing Darcy (who was always going to make the right move, but LQ won't let him) like everyone here goes on about

Ok, but you have never answered the question, why is it that Larry Quinn is always talking to the media about player transactions? As Managing Partner, he's the guy who runs the business operations of the team like revenue, ticketing, corporate sponsorships, etc. So, let me ask you this, do you ever hear anything coming out of Mike Ilitch in Detroit about player transactions? Have you ever heard anything coming out of the mouth of Eugene Melnyk or Roy Mlakar with regard to player transactions? Ever heard anything from Michael Schulman from the Ducks about player transactions? But why is that Larry Quinn seems to always be talking about player transactions whenever he talks to the media? Why is he always talking to the media? What does a guy who is in real estate know about hockey? And why does he keep opening his yap about freaking player transactions? Unless we are spies and sit inside of HSBC arena, none of us will definitively know what's going on, but clearly Quinn is talking and making a lot of decisions about player transactions and given his rhetoric, it's impossible not to see that he is a major part in what's going on. Why is the guy who is in charge or revenue, ticketing, and corporate sponsorships talk as though he is the GM of the franchise to the media? That's all I'd like to know.

[LabattBlue]

Ok, but you have never answered the question, why is it that Larry Quinn is always talking to the media about player transactions?

The question wasn't directed at me, but I'll throw my 2 cents in anyways...

 

Because Quinn is a meddling wannabee who doesn't feel that being Golisano's lackey is enough to satisfy his ego. Therefore, he is playing "fantasy hockey GM".

[inkman]

Because Quinn is a meddling wannabee who doesn't feel that being Golisano's lackey is enough to satisfy his ego. Therefore, he is playing "fantasy hockey GM".

Nail Head, meet Hammer.

[tom webster]

The question wasn't directed at me, but I'll throw my 2 cents in anyways...

 

Because Quinn is a meddling wannabee who doesn't feel that being Golisano's lackey is enough to satisfy his ego. Therefore, he is playing "fantasy hockey GM".

 

 

Even Larry Felser who probably has to be awaken to write his once a week column takes a shot at Quinn and Quinn's own belief that he is the second coming of Scotty Bowman. The only time I have ever even heard of Larry sharing credit with anyone other than his money man Golisano is when he credited Neil Smith with helping him target Drury when he first came back to Buffalo. Always wondered how Darcy felt about that.

[apuszczalowski]

Ok, but you have never answered the question, why is it that Larry Quinn is always talking to the media about player transactions? As Managing Partner, he's the guy who runs the business operations of the team like revenue, ticketing, corporate sponsorships, etc. So, let me ask you this, do you ever hear anything coming out of Mike Ilitch in Detroit about player transactions? Have you ever heard anything coming out of the mouth of Eugene Melnyk or Roy Mlakar with regard to player transactions? Ever heard anything from Michael Schulman from the Ducks about player transactions? But why is that Larry Quinn seems to always be talking about player transactions whenever he talks to the media? Why is he always talking to the media? What does a guy who is in real estate know about hockey? And why does he keep opening his yap about freaking player transactions? Unless we are spies and sit inside of HSBC arena, none of us will definitively know what's going on, but clearly Quinn is talking and making a lot of decisions about player transactions and given his rhetoric, it's impossible not to see that he is a major part in what's going on. Why is the guy who is in charge or revenue, ticketing, and corporate sponsorships talk as though he is the GM of the franchise to the media? That's all I'd like to know.

Talking to the media is different then making the decisions. AS managing partner, he is pretty much acting as the owner because TG doesn't have any Hockey Background. I'm not and never have said that LQ isn't a moron or isn't a problem. But I don't see how just because he is at Press Conferences, or talks to the media that he is making decisions and handcuffing DR. Maybe DR doesn't like talking to the media, maybe the Sabres FO prefers letting LQ talk to the media.

 

Talking about decisions on players doesn't mean he is the one making the decisions, or that it isn't a decision between him DR and TG

 

Sorry, but I think that if it is LQ running the show and handcuffing DR in his decissions, DR wouldn't be interested in hanging around in buffalo and letting LQ ruin his reputation and would be out looking for a new GM job as soon as he could, instead of staying to be LQ's puppet. I'm sure there are a bunch of teams that would up a GM that has 2 straight ECF's on his resume, and that if he wouldn't have re-signed in Buffalo because he was being handcuffed, he would have a new job rather quickly.

[tom webster]

Talking to the media is different then making the decisions. AS managing partner, he is pretty much acting as the owner because TG doesn't have any Hockey Background. I'm not and never have said that LQ isn't a moron or isn't a problem. But I don't see how just because he is at Press Conferences, or talks to the media that he is making decisions and handcuffing DR. Maybe DR doesn't like talking to the media, maybe the Sabres FO prefers letting LQ talk to the media.

 

Talking about decisions on players doesn't mean he is the one making the decisions, or that it isn't a decision between him DR and TG

 

Sorry, but I think that if it is LQ running the show and handcuffing DR in his decissions, DR wouldn't be interested in hanging around in buffalo and letting LQ ruin his reputation and would be out looking for a new GM job as soon as he could, instead of staying to be LQ's puppet. I'm sure there are a bunch of teams that would up a GM that has 2 straight ECF's on his resume, and that if he wouldn't have re-signed in Buffalo because he was being handcuffed, he would have a new job rather quickly.

 

 

Which may be why he signed a two year deal when Ruff signed a four year deal. For the record, I don't think all good is Dr and all bad is LQ. I do feel, however, that DR would have signed Brian in the summer and I do believe that after trading him, he knew that he needed to add a replacement. He is too smart a hockey man not to know that this team needed something else added to the blue line for a playoff run.

[Claude Balls]

Trust NOTHING Quinn says...NOTHING! <_<

Exactly. What's he going to say after a dissapointing season. "Sorry, but they are the least of our worries right now". He's just trying to look like the good guy.

[apuszczalowski]

Which may be why he signed a two year deal when Ruff signed a four year deal. For the record, I don't think all good is Dr and all bad is LQ. I do feel, however, that DR would have signed Brian in the summer and I do believe that after trading him, he knew that he needed to add a replacement. He is too smart a hockey man not to know that this team needed something else added to the blue line for a playoff run.

Then why didn't DR sign Brian in the Summer? Even you say that they could have signed everyone and still had cap room for Miller and Pominnville.

 

If he knew he needed a replacement for Campbell at the deadline, why didn't he get one?

 

How is he "To smart of a hockey man not to know.......". What would lead you to believe he is that way?

[Rico7]

Ok, but you have never answered the question, why is it that Larry Quinn is always talking to the media about player transactions? As Managing Partner, he's the guy who runs the business operations of the team like revenue, ticketing, corporate sponsorships, etc. So, let me ask you this, do you ever hear anything coming out of Mike Ilitch in Detroit about player transactions? Have you ever heard anything coming out of the mouth of Eugene Melnyk or Roy Mlakar with regard to player transactions? Ever heard anything from Michael Schulman from the Ducks about player transactions? But why is that Larry Quinn seems to always be talking about player transactions whenever he talks to the media? Why is he always talking to the media? What does a guy who is in real estate know about hockey? And why does he keep opening his yap about freaking player transactions? Unless we are spies and sit inside of HSBC arena, none of us will definitively know what's going on, but clearly Quinn is talking and making a lot of decisions about player transactions and given his rhetoric, it's impossible not to see that he is a major part in what's going on. Why is the guy who is in charge or revenue, ticketing, and corporate sponsorships talk as though he is the GM of the franchise to the media? That's all I'd like to know.

 

 

Couldn't have said it any better.

[tom webster]

Then why didn't DR sign Brian in the Summer? Even you say that they could have signed everyone and still had cap room for Miller and Pominnville.

 

If he knew he needed a replacement for Campbell at the deadline, why didn't he get one?

 

How is he "To smart of a hockey man not to know.......". What would lead you to believe he is that way?

 

 

DR doesn't write the checks. Apparently he isn't even given a budget. TG said in one of his three public service announcements that he has to sign off on every deal and he knows what everyone makes and keeps a running log of what their position is to the cap and more importantly, to their own budget.

 

Darcy's main fault lies in his inability to convince his superiors of his convictions. Instead, he plays the loyal soldier and does what he is told. (He also tends to fall in love with his own players(figuratively connee) but that is another story) Remember, Darcy is the only man in America who couldn't convince John and Tim Rigas to spend money that they didn't have!

He is a great organizational man and built a scouting staff that leads the league in number of drafted players presently playing in the NHL. Do you think it was his idea to dismantle that organization?

 

All I will say about the last two points is that his track record validates his abilities. He has not been perfect, but he has been more than good.

[RichyRich]

Larry, meet Negotiations 101; Negotations 101, "Larry probably not a good idea to completely reveal your hand before you play it. Why? Well, if I were Pominville or Miller, I would demand a boatload of money because you already stated you are going to sign us, it is not an option for you."

 

Appreciate the change in off-season behavior (which is also serving as an implicit admission of mistake - given the change in such behavior) as well as the message it is sending fans, but this guy is ridiculous. If the Sabres are so concerned with cutting costs (ie. video scouting), why not start with this guy & his salary? Not to mention his mere presence is a significant cost, with all of his brillaint decision-making

[Goodfella25]

I just think this shows that Sabres management is nervous about fan support for next year after this year's disgusting, disappointing season. He's trying to pat us on the head and say "it's alright little pig, we're not going to let more players go". Call it what you want--damage control, revealing your hand too early--it's all the same.