carpandean Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 They are not very popular on this board... I think they are still the #1 pair heading into next season.. They weren't even the #1 pair for most of this season. They lost that spot to Spacek-Campbell early on. If they got it back after the trade deadline, it was because of injuries and the fact that the next guy on the list was Kalinin. Weber and Sekera play to well together to split up and Spacek will most likely be on the top pair. That means either they pick up somebody to play with Spacek or Tallydman gets split up. If they do pick somebody up, who is #2 and who is #3 between Tallydman and Wekera? Note: Sekera led the team with 24:57 TOI, ahead of Pomiville (23:07), Roy and Lydman (21:46 each).
wjag Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 They weren't even the #1 pair for most of this season. They lost that spot to Spacek-Campbell early on. If they were after the trade deadline, it was because of injuries and the fact that the next guy on the list was Kalinin. Weber and Sekera play to well together to split up and Spacek will most likely be on the top pair. That means either they pick up somebody to play with Spacek or Tallydman gets split up. If they do pick somebody up, who is #2 and who is #3 between Tallydman and Wekera? I think the D is pretty well set if they resign Kalinin Tallinder-Lydman Spacek-Kalinin Weber-Sekera I know we are all enamored with how well the kids are playing. But it is Tallinder-Lydman who play against the top line. Lindy is not about to throw some kids out there against the top line routinely... The real debate should be what happens after next season.
LabattBlue Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 Game thoughts... -By far the most boring game I've been to at the arena this year. -I don't know if the Sabres were that good in their own end or Boston just doesn't care about offense. -We'll see how next year plays out, but Sekera seems like a pretty good replacement instead of Campbell at 6 mil a year. -Kotalik and Max....don't go away mad, JUST GO AWAY!!!! -Very few Sabre forwards were impressive from an offensive standpoint. Roy was probably by far the best one. I'm not sure Stafford or Bernier even played. -Vanek made a nice play to setup the winning goal, but did little else. -I continue to like Mair's game since being paired with Kaleta. -I don't think Miller was tested a lot, but made the saves thrown at him. -A win is a win.
inkman Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 I didn't even know there was a game today... :ph34r:
Team Strike Force Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 If Buffalo and Boston end up tied at 92, they'd have the same record. What's the tie-breaker? Is it head to head? Would Buffalo have the advantage there?
carpandean Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 I think the D is pretty well set if they resign Kalinin Lindy shouted him down at practice and then they called up Sekera to play with him as a healthy scratch. Why in the hell wouldn't they take the easy excuse to walk away from him? I'd hope that they'd re-sign Pratt before they'd even think about re-signing Kalinin.
darksabre Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 I think the D is pretty well set if they resign Kalinin Tallinder-Lydman Spacek-Kalinin Weber-Sekera I know we are all enamored with how well the kids are playing. But it is Tallinder-Lydman who play against the top line. Lindy is not about to throw some kids out there against the top line routinely... The real debate should be what happens after next season. replace Kalinen with Pratt please.
wjag Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 If Buffalo and Boston end up tied at 92, they'd have the same record. What's the tie-breaker? Is it head to head? Would Buffalo have the advantage there? W's?
Bmwolf21 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 If Buffalo and Boston end up tied at 92, they'd have the same record. What's the tie-breaker? Is it head to head? Would Buffalo have the advantage there? Assuming they finish out tied, they will have split the season series, so it would end up getting to the 3rd tiebreaker, which is goal differential, and Buffalo would be in.
wjag Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 replace Kalinen with Pratt please. Forgot about Pratt... Yeah I think you have it Tallinder-Lydman Spacek-Pratt Weber-Sekera
LabattBlue Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 I think the D is pretty well set if they resign Kalinin Tallinder-Lydman Spacek-Kalinin Weber-Sekera I know we are all enamored with how well the kids are playing. But it is Tallinder-Lydman who play against the top line. Lindy is not about to throw some kids out there against the top line routinely... The real debate should be what happens after next season. IMO...If this is the top 6 blueliners for next season, they will once again miss the playoffs. I think I'm going to have nightmares tonight.
Bmwolf21 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 Assuming they finish out tied, they will have split the season series, so it would end up getting to the 3rd tiebreaker, which is goal differential, and Buffalo would be in. This is what I found on another site: If two or more clubs are tied in points during the regular season, the standing of the clubs is determined in the following order: 1. The fewer number of games played (i.e., superior points percentage). 2. The greater number of games won. 3. The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. * If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. * If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing. 4. The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season
Bmwolf21 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 IMO...If this is the top 6 blueliners for next season, they will once again miss the playoffs. I think I'm going to have nightmares tonight. That makes two of us with nightmares.
wjag Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 IMO...If this is the top 6 blueliners for next season, they will once again miss the playoffs. I think I'm going to have nightmares tonight. I hear you. I've gone on record as saying they could change out all six (before Weber and Sekera were called up) next season and I wouldn't be disappointed. But the reality is these guys are signed and will be here except for Kalinin and Pratt. They would have to offer Pratt another 1 year deal (I think he was only signed for one year. Fact police?) The 2008 Sabres are going to look very much like the 2007 Sabres.
MarkAF43 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 Mad Max tonight - 0 pts, -1, 1 SOG, 2 giveaways, and 7:36 of ice time. Just throwing it out there. I blame Miller for Max's play tonight
Bmwolf21 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 I blame Miller for Max's play tonight :lol:
Bmwolf21 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 I hear you. I've gone on record as saying they could change out all six (before Weber and Sekera were called up) next season and I wouldn't be disappointed. But the reality is these guys are signed and will be here except for Kalinin and Pratt. They would have to offer Pratt another 1 year deal (I think he was only signed for one year. Fact police?) The 2008 Sabres are going to look very much like the 2007 Sabres. That could make for either a good season - or a very disappointing one...
carpandean Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 This is what I found on another site: 4. The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season Will all proper acknowledgments to the hockey gods that we are speaking of very unlikely events that only they can make happen ... If it comes down to that, we will win. We have +11, which can only get better if we win out. They have -7, which can only get worse if they lose out. But, we're a long way from being at that point.
wjag Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 Assuming we get to Saturday before being eliminated, can you imagine how boring/exciting/boring that game will be? These Buf-Bos games have turned into real snooze-fests. We'll be dying as they play blueline trap and dump hockey.
carpandean Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 But the reality is these guys are signed and will be here except for Kalinin and Pratt. They would have to offer Pratt another 1 year deal (I think he was only signed for one year. Fact police?) Both are UFA's, but nothing says we have to sign either. As I said, though, if it had to be one of the two, I'd go with Pratt for the reasons I listed earlier.
will Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 if kalinin gets signed for anything more than the league minimum, i will start the "fire larry/darcy" campaign. and even then, he should never be allowed in HSBC unless the top 10 d-men in the system are all injured. let him walk away. do not offer him a contract. do not let the door hit you where the good lord split you. bye bye you mental midget of a child/man. yeah, i hate the guy. nobody wants paetsch in the top 6? ...neither do i. please, darcy, take tree's $2+mil that's coming off the books and the $2mill you shave off vanek's contract next season and give it all to liles. hell, tack on another mil just to be sure you nail him down early and for a long time. and don't forget to get a new fax machine at some point between now and mid-june.
SabresFan526 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 if kalinin gets signed for anything more than the league minimum, i will start the "fire larry/darcy" campaign. and even then, he should never be allowed in HSBC unless the top 10 d-men in the system are all injured. let him walk away. do not offer him a contract. do not let the door hit you where the good lord split you. bye bye you mental midget of a child/man. yeah, i hate the guy. nobody wants paetsch in the top 6? ...neither do i. please, darcy, take tree's $2+mil that's coming off the books and the $2mill you shave off vanek's contract next season and give it all to liles. hell, tack on another mil just to be sure you nail him down early and for a long time. and don't forget to get a new fax machine at some point between now and mid-june. I agree 100% with everything you said, especially in bold. Paetsch is a nice 7th, but we need a PP QB and that is Liles. Unfortunately, we seem to all have the welcome mats ready for Liles on the message board, it's going to be highly disappointing when he signs with Philly or somewhere else and not in Buffalo because he would be absolutely awesome in a Buffalo uniform. He fits the Sabres profile perfectly and will play really well here.
Eleven Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 Mad Max tonight - 0 pts, -1, 1 SOG, 2 giveaways, and 7:36 of ice time. Just throwing it out there. Throw it away instead of "throwing it out there." That's hardly the whole story. He frustrated the hell out of the entire Boston team right in front of the net in the third when he singlehandedly played keep-away from all six--that includes Auld-- but not one teammate came to his aid by knocking a defender away. Still Max held that puck for a good eight to ten seconds, and the Sabres did keep it in for a while. There is not a better NHLer out there at frustrating D-men and making them work for a puck. It doesn't translate into goals because he's not a natural scorer. (People always have assumed that because he's fast, he should be a finisher. He's not, and one doesn't logically follow the other, anyway.) But how many times has he taken a puck in himself and stalled with it while the other four get a change? I really think Max gets a bum rap. That said, the stick-handling play of the day goes to Derek Roy, who plucked a puck out of the air in the first period, bounced it on his stick blade twice, then slapped it down onto the ice with his glove and passed it back. That play kept the puck in the Bruins' zone, and the next time that puck crossed the blue line, it was in the ref's hand after Lydman scored. Don't know if that made it onto TV or not, but live, it was incredible.
VABeachSabresFanatic Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 Great win for Buffalo, although a regulation win would have been nice. Here's the updated playoff scenario: To make the playoffs, the Sabres have to win their final 3 games and then have 2 of the following 4 things happen: 1. WAS loses 2 of 3 games (1 can be in OT) (or CAR loses all 3 games (1 can be in OT)) 2. BOS loses all 3 games (1 loss - other than against the Sabres - can be in OT) - the last game is against Buffalo 3. PHI loses all 3 games (1 can be in OT) 4. NYR loses all 4 games in regulation If Philly or Boston goes 0-2-1 and ends up tied with the Sabres, Buffalo would win the tiebreaker. The first tiebreaker is wins but they would have the same record. The second tiebreaker is head-to-head record - the Sabres picked up more points against Philly, and they would have the same number of points head-to-head as Boston (assuming that Buffalo wins the last game in regulation). The Sabres would beat Boston on goal differential. The toughest thing would be for Buffalo win out. I could see Washington or Carolina struggling in the final week, and I could also see Boston dropping games against NJ and OTT. At the very least, it could go down to the final weekend.
carpandean Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 Hmmm ... I admit that I don't know that much about Liles, but with Spacek and Sekera both playing well on the point for PP's, should we really focus on bringing in another small defenseman? Maybe, if we want to bring in two new defensemen, I could see doing that, but we need size and physical play first. Weber is a good start, but I still think our highest priority is a veteran, physical, shut-down defenseman.
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