That Aud Smell Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 What I'd heard is that one of the sticking points for the Buffalo proposal was that we weren't willing to part with Stafford. (I also suspect Smyth's cap figure might've been an issue for us?) I might be spewing complete and utter rubbish here -- but something about the Satfford issue sounds right to me.
inkman Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 What I'd heard is that one of the sticking points for the Buffalo proposal was that we weren't willing to part with Stafford. (I also suspect Smyth's cap figure might've been an issue for us?) I might be spewing complete and utter rubbish here -- but something about the Satfford issue sounds right to me. Stafford could literally turn into our Ryan Smyth. I have no problem with Darcy deeming him untouchable.
IKnowPhysics Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 I watched Stafford play for North Dakota. He will be a contributor and a great special teams player. I'd recommend patience, but that would only cue whinings about wanting to win this year. We may have a shot at signing him this summer.
Goodfella25 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 Stafford could literally turn into our Ryan Smyth. I have no problem with Darcy deeming him untouchable. Totally agreed, I think wehen you're talking about a deal for ANY of the potential UFAs, Stafford is untouchable. Good job by Darcy
RayFinkle Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 What I'd heard is that one of the sticking points for the Buffalo proposal was that we weren't willing to part with Stafford. (I also suspect Smyth's cap figure might've been an issue for us?) I might be spewing complete and utter rubbish here -- but something about the Satfford issue sounds right to me. I don't know where you heard that from but it sounds 100% false to me. Ryan is making 3.5 million, Zubrus is making 1.8. We would have done a lot more than give up Stafford to get Smyth.
Alaska Darin Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 Stafford could literally turn into our Ryan Smyth. I have no problem with Darcy deeming him untouchable. I can't say I disagree with that thinking, though DS has a LOOOOOOOOOONG way to go before he's RS. The only way I'd have agreed to a deal for RS is if he signed a multi-year deal. The price was just too high otherwise. Let me be the first to say "THERE'S NO WAY IN HELL HE STAYS ON LONG ISLAND." Way to go, Garth. :lol:
That Aud Smell Posted February 27, 2007 Author Report Posted February 27, 2007 Totally agreed, I think wehen you're talking about a deal for ANY of the potential UFAs, Stafford is untouchable. Good job by Darcy Yup-yup (assuming Darcy thusly refused to move Stafford).
Swedesessed Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 Stafford MIGHT turn out to be an excellent player...MIGHT... Ryan Smyth IS already a top notch player who could have very well given the Sabres the missing ingredient to bring a Stanley Cup to Buffalo??? How many chances has this franchise had of REALLY winning the cup?? But let's hang onto Stafford as Brier and Drury leave and we are back to being an 8 seed with no Cup. Brilliant!!! :censored:
Hawerchuk Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 Nooooooo! Not the Islanders!! Dammit, woulda loved him with the Sabres.
BetweenThePipes00 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 Obviously there would have been some salary going back to Edmonton, so it's not that far-fetched ... but if they wanted Stafford, Darcy did the right thing. He may never be Ryan Smyth, but he is too much to pay for a rental. No way was Smyth staying in Buffalo beyond this year. I saw enough of Novotny to say I am OK with losing him for Zubrus. I like what I have seen from Stafford much more. Stafford MIGHT turn out to be an excellent player...MIGHT...Ryan Smyth IS already a top notch player who could have very well given the Sabres the missing ingredient to bring a Stanley Cup to Buffalo??? How many chances has this franchise had of REALLY winning the cup?? But let's hang onto Stafford as Brier and Drury leave and we are back to being an 8 seed with no Cup. Brilliant!!! :censored: Does Smyth gurantee a Cup? Can you really say that about ANYONE? Not to mention if Briere and Drury leave, you have to assume Smyth is leaving too, so we would have NONE of them AND Stafford is gone too ... That's just too high a price to pay. It's easy for you to say, you don't have to keep the team winning for future years, you are thinking only this year. And even if they did win the Cup, if they miss the playoffs the next two years as a result, will that Cup pay the bills when short-sighted fans like yourself stop buying tickets?
rickshaw Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 WE couldn't really go after Smyth, unless he signed on longterm, which would of course frosted Drury and Briere's cornflakes. It would have been nice to get him but I'm glad we didn't give up some of our future stars for a possible rental. Can you imagine losing CD, DB and RS all at once, not including a Stafford and picks??? No thanks.
inkman Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 Stafford MIGHT turn out to be an excellent player...MIGHT... Ryan Smyth IS already a top notch player who could have very well given the Sabres the missing ingredient to bring a Stanley Cup to Buffalo??? How many chances has this franchise had of REALLY winning the cup?? But let's hang onto Stafford as Brier and Drury leave and we are back to being an 8 seed with no Cup. Brilliant!!! :censored: I'll take a chance to win a cup every year over a slighty better chance to win a cup in a given year.
BetweenThePipes00 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 I'll take a chance to win a cup every year over a slighty better chance to win a cup in a given year. And that's saying something coming from Inkman. he has been one of the most vocal "Go for it now!" guys, right? ... Stafford was just too much
Barnabov Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 It would have to have been Stafford plus Novotny plus someone else making around 1 million bucks (Peters salary not enough) to have fit Smyth under the cap. If you can't make the numbers work, it's a moot point.
Tom L. Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 It makes perfect sense that K. Lowe wanted Stafford and wouldn't accept less. He needed to bring back a kid with an Edmonton connection. If the rumors were accurate that at the draft table, he offered Regier a 2nd rounder to move up ONE SPOT, to draft Stafford. Regier said no. As much as Ryan Smyth would have looked on Drury's LW, giving up Stafford is too much, for my taste. Ta,
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