Roy Melacher...Ottawa team president

[inkman]

Topics discussed:

 

1)Peters on Emery: Startling. Peters got his from McGratton. :blink:

 

2)Sabres jumping Sens skill guys: Surprised. :blink:

 

3)Sens not sticking up for Emery:He didn't need help. He is one of the top 10 heavyweights in the league. :blink:

 

4)Neil's hit:Claims it was 0.2 seconds after hit. Maybe they should be playing in dresses. Drury's head was down. <_<

 

5)Ruff's fine:Appropriate. Also thinks Lindy should be up for Jack Adams award. :)

[DaFan]

Topics discussed:

 

1)Peters on Emery: Startling. Peters got his from McGratton. :blink:

 

2)Sabres jumping Sens skill guys: Surprised. :blink:

 

3)Sens not sticking up for Emery:He didn't need help. He is one of the top 10 heavyweights in the league. :blink:

 

4)Neil's hit:Claims it was 0.2 seconds after hit. Maybe they should be playing in dresses. Drury's head was down. <_<

 

5)Ruff's fine:Appropriate. Also thinks Lindy should be up for Jack Adams award. :)

 

Interesting on Sat some schmuck said it was .4 seconds....... and it was timed.... blah blah blah... it was late... not illegal by NHL standards obviously... but late... and late in my book is cheap.

[ET1062]

Make the world a better place, punch Melacher in the face!

[ko12010]

Topics discussed:

 

1)Peters on Emery: Startling. Peters got his from McGratton. :blink:

 

2)Sabres jumping Sens skill guys: Surprised. :blink:

 

3)Sens not sticking up for Emery:He didn't need help. He is one of the top 10 heavyweights in the league. :blink:

 

4)Neil's hit:Claims it was 0.2 seconds after hit. Maybe they should be playing in dresses. Drury's head was down. <_<

 

5)Ruff's fine:Appropriate. Also thinks Lindy should be up for Jack Adams award. :)

 

 

 

 

This is what the ottawa guy said? If so he is an idiot, but then again what else would Ottawa's president say? I don't think the truth would sound so good.

 

1) All I know is that Peters got a couple whiffs from McGratton, but McGratton got two heavy rights to the face.

 

2) The Senators deserved what they got. They go after our skilled guys we'll go after theirs.

 

3) great excuse that emery didn't need help. I think he still has Peters' knuckle marks on the side of his head.

 

4) During the last game that fat guy that was interviewed on behalf of Ottawa even said it was timed out at .44 seconds. I doubt that was correct though

 

5) Chris Neil should have been fined along with Ruff if Ruff supposedly deserved a fine, now Neil should be suspended for declaring to the public his intent to hurt if ottawa was up by a few, then attempting to follow through.

 

 

I don't think Ottawa fans would be too pleased with their president if the truth was spoken.

[BetweenThePipes00]

The fact that it was to the head is what got me ... I know I should be open the can of worms again, but the reason the refs didn't see it was because the puck was 50 feet away ... no puck+headhunting=intent to injure. I don't want the hitting out of the game, but I also don't want the next guy dead when he takes a shoulder to the head and then his head hits the ice. Drury was very lucky it was not worse.

But whatever, the hit doesn't bother me as much as the whining from Ottawa about the next shift.

[ko12010]

The fact that it was to the head is what got me ... I know I should be open the can of worms again, but the reason the refs didn't see it was because the puck was 50 feet away ... no puck+headhunting=intent to injure. I don't want the hitting out of the game, but I also don't want the next guy dead when he takes a shoulder to the head and then his head hits the ice. Drury was very lucky it was not worse.

But whatever, the hit doesn't bother me as much as the whining from Ottawa about the next shift.

 

 

 

 

I personally think the worst thing about Neil's hit was the fact he snuck up on Drury, then stepped just inside to avoid giving a blatant shot in the back.

 

What does it matter if Drury's head was up or down. This F*cker snuck behind him then unloaded the shoulder on him. I really am surprised that this aspect of the hit is not even being discussed. Was it late? Yes, maybe not the latest hit in the history of the game, but late. Did he go for Drury's head? We don't know for sure. But the fact is Neil is taller than Drury and seemed to have left the ice a little. What does it matter if he hit Drury's head with the shoulder or elbow. It still was a head shot.

 

 

But this piece of Sh*t came from almost directly behind him to hit him!!!!!! Why the hell does no body from the NHL notice this.

[inkman]

But this piece of Sh*t came from almost directly behind him to hit him!!!!!! Why the hell does no body from the NHL notice this.

...because next thing you know they will be playing in dresses. <_<

[ko12010]

...because next thing you know they will be playing in dresses. <_<

 

 

 

It just boggles my mind that this has been overlooked. I watch probably 75 of the Sabres games every season and others on Center Ice and I have never seen someone sneak up directly behind someone to hit them after they had taken a shot.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

What does it matter if Drury's head was up or down. This F*cker snuck behind him then unloaded the shoulder on him. I really am surprised that this aspect of the hit is not even being discussed. Was it late? Yes, maybe not the latest hit in the history of the game, but late. Did he go for Drury's head? We don't know for sure. But the fact is Neil is taller than Drury and seemed to have left the ice a little. What does it matter if he hit Drury's head with the shoulder or elbow. It still was a head shot.

 

I agree. I don't think there was an elbow, or it was blatantly late. It was the fact the he did hit Drury from the front, but came from an angle behind him. Is a hit from behind only if you actully hit a player in the back? If it is, I think there is a major flaw, which was exposed on this hit. Drury's head was up and he was aware of all play within his peripheral vision. Unfortunately, Neil was coming outside his peripheral with the intent to catch him by surprise. That's the BS of the hit. Not the other stuff.

[ko12010]

I agree. I don't think there was an elbow, or it was blatantly late. It was the fact the he did hit Drury from the front, but came from an angle behind him. Is a hit from behind only if you actully hit a player in the back? If it is, I think there is a major flaw, which was exposed on this hit. Drury's head was up and he was aware of all play within his peripheral vision. Unfortunately, Neil was coming outside his peripheral with the intent to catch him by surprise. That's the BS of the hit. Not the other stuff.

 

 

 

Exactly, this F*ck came from behind, but dipped inside to essentially unload the shoulder back up and in to Drury in almost the opposite angle he approached. I feel that this is worse than anything. You give the player you are about to hit NO CHANCE whatsoever of avoiding the hit.

[Buffalo Wings]

4) During the last game that fat guy that was interviewed on behalf of Ottawa even said it was timed out at .44 seconds. I doubt that was correct though

The replay may have made it seem longer, but a half-second in hockey is longer than you'd think. I'd have to watch the replay again, but I believe you could see Neil sizing up Drury and heading towards him just as the puck left Drury's stick. Hockey is a fast game, but I think he had enough time to drop his shoulders/elbow and make the hit appear more legit. I also don't remember Drury's head being down, but I do remember he was watching the puck after he shot it. I think Neil didn't hit him from behind, but instead came from Drury's blind side. Just think of an SUV cutting in front of a Ford Escort at 90mph before it's clearly ahead of the Escort.

 

I have no problem with Melacher saying what he did....he's the team president, he's supposed to do that.

 

Neil can say whatever the H he wants...the hit was a combination of being late enough, high enough, and enough from behind that it warranted at least a fine. Considering he started taking more shots on Saturday, I'm wondering who he knows in the league office. <_<

[Supersabre]

To me this almost smacks of the incident involving Todd Bertuzzi and Steve Moore. Same kind of deal sort of . Bertoozie sucker punching Moore from the blindside and then using his 200 plus pounds of goofberry crunch bodyweight to ride Moore right down to the ice. THe NHL and Bettman had their opportunity several years ago to correct this problem and didn't. IT's all about protecting the Canadien teams and doing nothing to help the American teams in the NHL. At the very least its reprehensible. You would almost have to be blind not to see the hit on Drury. As a few others have mentioned the officials sure swallowed their whistles that night. :doh: :wallbash:

[deluca67]

...because next thing you know they will be playing in dresses. <_<

 

I know Spezza would be all for it. He has one in his closet for every occasion.

[ko12010]

To me this almost smacks of the incident involving Todd Bertuzzi and Steve Moore. Same kind of deal sort of . Bertoozie sucker punching Moore from the blindside and then using his 200 plus pounds of goofberry crunch bodyweight to ride Moore right down to the ice. THe NHL and Bettman had their opportunity several years ago to correct this problem and didn't. IT's all about protecting the Canadien teams and doing nothing to help the American teams in the NHL. At the very least its reprehensible. You would almost have to be blind not to see the hit on Drury. As a few others have mentioned the officials sure swallowed their whistles that night. :doh: :wallbash:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would not be surprised if Bettman is giving the officials orders to cool it with the penalties. Bettman hates Ruff and vice versa (though not too many people don't hate Bettman) The last thing bettman wants is to see Buffalo win the Cup. He stole our chance of a game 7 in 99' and knows that if penalties were being called like they were last year, we would cruise to a cup win.

 

 

Bettman does NOT want to see Buffalo hoist the cup this year or ever. That is a fact. People get upset with conspiracy theorists making excuses for the Sabres and Bills lack of ability to win a championship, but the Sabres are indeed fighting against more than 29 other teams here.

[Taro T]

I would not be surprised if Bettman is giving the officials orders to cool it with the penalties. Bettman hates Ruff and vice versa (though not too many people don't hate Bettman) The last thing bettman wants is to see Buffalo win the Cup. He stole our chance of a game 7 in 99' and knows that if penalties were being called like they were last year, we would cruise to a cup win.

Bettman does NOT want to see Buffalo hoist the cup this year or ever. That is a fact. People get upset with conspiracy theorists making excuses for the Sabres and Bills lack of ability to win a championship, but the Sabres are indeed fighting against more than 29 other teams here.

It is opinion. (Opinion shared by many, but opinion nonetheless.)

 

If Bettman truly hated Buffalo, he had ample opportunity to ditch it off to another city when the Adelphia mess occurred.

 

There are a lot of things Bettman has done in his tenure that I don't like, but it is hard to say that Bettman has singled out Buffalo as the 1 team he doesn't want to see win Lord Stanley's Chalice. A case could be made that he'd prefer to see a big market team win it rather than a small one as TV ratings would probably have a slight blip up nationally if the Strangers made it to the Finals, but I don't see him hating the Sabres nor actively running a conspiracy against them.

[drnkirishone]

First I hate Bettmen but to imply that he hates Buffalo is crazy. Like dave_b said he had the chance to get the sabres outta here if he realy hated buffalo.

 

 

I am so completely sick and tired of hearing ooo the hit came 0.44 seconds after the puck was gone. Even if that number is correct it is irrelevent to the issue. Look at the distance Neil covered to make the hit. Because in this day and age 1 second or even 2 seconds is all that is needed to cover the width of the ice or more. He came from the left side of the high slot (near the defenseman) down to the faceoff circle on the right side. When Drury got rid of the puck he wasn't even within 2 stick length's of him.

 

Bottem line is the NHL says it's legal... S every player has to ignore the the puck and watch for the headhunters until the NHL closes the old grey area's and brings the rules into the 21 century

[Supersabre]

Dear Gary,

 

I am deeply concerned with the standard the NHL has adopted that seems

to allow violent hits to the head.

 

In light of the most recent injury to our captain Chris Drury, I am

calling on you to address this issue immediately before another player

is seriously injured or worse.

 

In our recent game with the Ottawa Senators, an opposing player skated

half the width of the ice surface, approached Chris Drury from his blind

side, and delivered a blow to his head which dislodged his helmet,

severely lacerating the area around his eye causing a concussion. Chris

Drury did not have the puck, he was not able to see the player coming

from behind, and had relaxed his guard. The player in question was aware

his presence was undetected but chose to deliver a vicious blow, which

can only be construed as intent to injure.

 

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