Claude_Verret

Yeah, a lot of overseas markets stabilized after the tone of Trump's victory speech last night. I was hoping for a great opportunity to rebalance my portfolio under an irrational market panic today.

No. Yes.

http://www.npr.org/2016/03/30/472279572/do-americans-actually-follow-through-on-election-threats-to-move-to-canada

I know I've been on record that you should never try to time the market, but tomorrow could be a huge buying opportunity.

I heard plenty of hooting and hollering from down the street when NC went Trump. Likely from the house that kept getting its Trump signs messed with. The guy had some epic FB rants on our neighborhood page whenever it happened.

Iowa Trump

Wisconsin Trump

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president

I'm tempted to say point missed carry on again, but I'll admit I shouldn't have responded so tersely the other day. I was on my phone however and not in a position to expound. Discussing politics absolutely can get us somewhere if done with the proper frame of reference. I'm 100% convinced and on board that it is pointless and has no hope of advancing any real understanding from either side when the discussion takes place from the respective partisan corners, which is where bob_sauve clearly resides. By and large that is absolutely what goes on here 90% of the time and there is mountainous evidence right from Haidt (and scores of other leaders in the field) that is pretty damn convincing to back up the futility in discussing politics in this fashion. On your validation. You understand what I posted was an analogy right and was not accusing him of being a 3 year old or being stupid? In other words, saying that trying to convince a partisan to see things outside of their partisan prism would be just as fruitless as trying to teach a 3 year old astrophysics, isn't the same as saying that since you're a partisan you have the mentality of a 3 year old. The point was to illustrate the utter futility of engaging in each endeavor on it's own. Granted. it probably wasn't the best choice of analogy given the ease with which it can be misinterpreted. Speaking of futility, I am not going to try to explain Haidt anymore. I brought his theory here with good intentions, and you'll either make an effort to read it and then make up your mind on what you feel on what MFT truly is or you won't. It's clear that most haven't, so again pointless to try to have any real discussion on it. Instead I'll try to explain, through another analogy, what I hear back from you and others when you're attempting to refute Haidt. I gather you play bass guitar, correct? Suppose you were trying to introduce a novice to the basic concepts of playing bass and you pointed him/her to a few internet articles that covered basic concepts from a high level. Then on top of that you said if you really want to dive deeper, there's this great 2 hour instructional book/video etc. that really goes beyond the glossy high level and gets into the nitty gritty. He or she comes back next week and you ask... so what do you think? well I guess there's something there, but I just don't see it, it's really not helping me see at all how to position my toes. That's because you're supposed to be using your fingers. Well I just can't figure out how to get my toes to move that way and play correctly, especially when I have shoes on. I don't see any value in this at all. Again, you play bass with your fingers, not your toes, and even if you could play with your toes how would wearing shoes help?. Did you watch the instructional video? That does a really nice job of explaining the basic concepts on a much deeper level without getting too technical. Why are you acting all high and mighty and being so condescending? The above is where point missed carry on comes from, now expanded upon. Two people still discussing bass guitar....but how can the conversation ever move towards anything productive as long as the novice staunchly continues the discussion through their own misunderstanding of the most central fundamental concepts? I'm not promising to stop using Haidt's MFT in my thought process on how I interpret partisanship in political discussion, but I can promise you that I am done debating it. So you'll either read it or you won't and that's where we are.

Ill pass. Again, trying to get a partisan to objectively look at a POV outside their partisan blinders is an exercise in futility. I will however take back my original comment and I will not question why you even bothered to vote, even if it is for more of the same. None of us should ever question any persons motivation in how he/she chooses to exercise their right to vote.

No idea what you're talking about.

Of course it doesn't make sense to you. You're a rock solid partisan. I might as well attempt explaining astrophysics to a 3 year old.

Funny, I'd ask you the exact same question.

NC battleground poll report Arrived at 6:20. Entered ballot (#49) at 6:50.

There is no alternate reality that my feeble mind can conceive where what happened to the Bills tonight with the officiating can happen to a non-irrelevant NFL franchise. I stand by my assertion that if the Bills are ever to make the playoffs again then they must assemble an early 90s Bills roster. Dominant. Elite.

One person looking for real change in Dixville.

Well if you were awake before halftime you witnessed the most embarrassing sequence of officiating from the NFL in quite some time.

Nah, just give it to 'em.

You can't write this . Awesome.

A friend and big Seahawks fan is coming over to watch on my 12' x 7' outdoor screen. He's been trying to trash talk with me all week about the game and I have zero desire to engage. Still I'm cooking wings, we'll have a fire and a few election eve brews. Ummmm Go Bills or something.

Ironic indeed, but not surprising given that he's blind to his own hypocrisy.

I drive by this house every day on my way to work. Thank almighty that this all ends tomorrow. And no, it wasn't me. :P http://www.wral.com/cary-man-says-someone-shot-at-trump-sign-on-his-front-porch/16205584/ I talked to many people who participated in early voting in NC and reported wait times as long as 3 hours. Insane. I plan on going to my polling place like I always do when it opens tomorrow morning and waiting no longer than 10-15 minutes.

I quoted the poster who made a comment about his own sobriety, thus leaving the impression that he was less than sober. Seriously? And you wonder why people think you're trolling... So then would it be fair to say that what 25%, 50%, 75% of Sabres fans must therefore support fracking and other things you dislike about Pegula? Because you're clearly comfortable with some number of Trump supporters being painted with the same ridiculous broad brush. The weakest of sauce and another data point in Haidts corner.

On the first you're being obtuse. On the second if Trump fan/supporter = racist bigot, then Sabres fan/supporter = fracking etc. supporter, right? Or is it possible that both are situations with more than just a dash of nuance?

1. I've seen it from both. Either way the point is the apocalyptic rhetoric from both sides is ridiculous and only serves to widen the gaping canyon. 2. Do you think this nation is fractured across partisan lines worse than any of us have seen in our lifetimes? That's the point. Sure the mud slinging around here by and large doesn't sink as low as you see elsewhere, but the knee jerk dismissing of opposite points of view simply because they come from the other team absolutely does carry the day here. A central point of the Haidt MFT is that it's human nature to be blind to this bias, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised that there is so much push back. But the decades of research is compelling, the mountains of data backing up his theory coming from well designed experiments is there either in published research, or distilled into layman's terms in his book. BagBoy's read it, Neo as well. Two posters from opposite sides of the aisle have found value in it. In short, if you did read the wsj piece, the discourse in this country would be orders of magnitude more productive if people on each team could acknowledge the logs in their own eyes before focusing on the hundreds of specks they see in the eyes of the other team.