JP51

LOL I feel this way too... I am just struggling for anything...

So, I have been pretty vocal saying I do not want Adams to have a say over our assets or lack thereof... I just don't find him capable... so is the issue simply there is no one that will come here via trade... or at least not that we have to over pay in both assets and compensation (and you know TP isnt having that) or Adams simply doesnt see a problem... (not likely) OR is it possible TP's "we are running with who we have" and "the solution is in this locker room" is his way of constraining Adams from making moves because he is contemplating a change (most likely at this point in the off season) . I honestly don't know... But I am hoping it is the latter... as always interested in the views of the board ...

Oh I have a time clock on Dahlin, Thompson and Tuch for sure...

I cannot imagine quite honestly anyone with solid NHL contributing talent would not want out... their careers are only so long... why would they want this misery year after year after year with literally no hope in sight... lack of hope does terrible things to people... if they have the chance to ply their skills in a more functional situation then this I dont care how much they love the area or require palm trees etc... you cant tell me that as professionals that they can possibly be happy and fulfilled. I want people that want to win and win a championship... how can any of those realistically look at this and see their way thru to that... now the happy to be here in the NHL crowd.. sure they will stay because they are probably not playing on another team..

Dude I cant disagree with you on this chicken and egg thing... Seriously... just a great discussion point... like what do you do? So I suppose if the answer is that Pegula is literally saying Adams and the FO is staying... he is never gonna fire them thru the terms of their contracts etc.... I would be hard pressed to disagree with you quite honestly.. but in the end... we will be stuck in the same old same old abyss... So, I guess I am holding out hope that we are going to see sweeping changes and I would prefer that individual (s) make those choices... but if the former happens... I guess its the only way but I fear we are set back even further...

Please do NOT let the orchestrator of this train wreck trade with anyone or have any control over our assets

Indeed

There really isn't anything left to say... they don't care why should we

Stranger things have happened lol

Mediocre just called it wants a word with you.... not happy lol 😆

You are not alone...

this inept cesspool and conglomeration of incompetence is clearly as good at medicine and treatment decisions as they are at team building and personel ones. Dr Adams... calling Dr Pegula...

Joki is exemplifies everything wrong with this team

Wow !! Thanks for that

thats where I am at... how many teams have never registered a shot on goal in a period... that in and of itself is just telling...

Either our is empty or thiers is... puck control needs to improve 1 on 1 battles in critical areas and faceoffs... none of these imo are strengths of ours.

agreed here... win is a win... kudos and props... well done... the problem is not solved ... no shots in the 3rd... that is absolutely inexcusable... the fact of the matter is that I am not sure this is a problem... but more DNA.. you may get away with that once or twice but the fact of the matter is this team seems to fold like a cheap tent after any pressure is put on them... therin lies the issue... and it is a team construction issue that Adams is presiding over... I would like to know the last time an NHL team recorded no shots in the 3rd period... I can say I dont ever remember it happening.

@JohnC I absolutely did not mean to be snarky disrespectful or disparaging in any way if you took it like that it was never my intent... in fact the opposite.. I was referencing your statement that I read to mean your view point was smart and my thoughts were dumb... and ultimately saying thats fine, I dont agree but I respect your right to an opinion. I would like to say this.. I do not want to ever be a poster that disparages or belittles others opinions because I dont see it that way... If we all thought the same we wouldnt have a board and there are a few here that seem to go to that place. I never want to be one. Fact is I have learned a lot from other peoples opinions... and appreciate it... maybe some have gained a different insight from mine... I dont know. in the end I actually think we are saying things very similar in our viewpoints.. anyways. I definately wanted to take the time to respond here because Its important to me that no one ever thinks I am being personal or a jack@ss to them...

Thanks for this, I love nostalgia like this I remember Knuble... kinda like the last guy in 2 degrees of Gretzky and Ovechkin...

Well, I suppose if you are thinking that I was saying Power straight up for McDavid that would be a little bit more than a pipe dream. The league would not allow it. Clearly there would need to be equal value... no I am not going to theorize on what that equal value would be... as it is a illustrative example... to me the bottom line is that no player is off limits as long as we are trading equal value and are getting the best player in the trade. Similar to the LaFontaine/Turgeon trade... Do I think we make a trade of this magnitude, no i dont they are rare and usually have an insanely unique circumstance. I am simply saying I dont want multiple lesser pieces and prospects for one our better players... I want to get the best player out of any deal we do if that is going to improve us. This is independent of who sits where in what standings... I am sick of getting prospects and multiple pieces predicated on hope for our best players and giving up the best player in the deal or trading them for picks that we hope pan out with an administration that simply cant evaluate and build a balanced team. I dont think it is a recipe for success. I do think that a reimaging of this team is critical and I do not trust the current GM to do that. No player with maybe the exception of Dahlin... (although if you were theoretically trading for literally McDavid I am sure they want him... ) as long as we are getting the best player in the trade. If this position makes you think I am dumb and you are smart... I respect your right to that opinion even though I don't share it.

agreed I dont want to trade power for this guy that guy and a prospect... If we are getting the best player in the deal... talk to me.

I actually am not far off... if you have seen my thoughts on this the only thing I am adamantly opposed to is Adams making any kind of trade. The last person in the world I want in charge of our assets is the orchestrator of this gross negligent incompetence... that said... Under a new regime with a new vision If Power was a piece in a deal to get you a generational player like McDavid... you would still say no? Fair enough.. but I wouldnt if the deal was right.

I second that but I aint complaining neither LOL...

Git R done Beane! err... wait wrong board LOL

I agree this is a box you cant close once you opened it... unless you are trading him... I did think it was a lot of pressure inititally to put on him I was really thinking Tuch to get thru the transition to success... but as we see, there is no transition, only regression and little hope for improvement in the near future.