JP51

Totally agree... this is a nothingburger to me...

agree here... I think statistically that Goaltending, Defensive improvement and the development of our younger players (Benson, Kulick,Norris, Kesselring, even Krebs, Doan) rings very important here... I think the one intangible thing that is hard to mention, how will this new mix of players gel... with the be a two way team with grit and not get run over night in and night out by teams who are focused and play 60 minutes... sick and tired of the we need 60 minutes excuse... Lindy seems to understand this but was at a clear loss at getting his team to understand this... does the new mix of players allow him to have a greater effect in the locker room... so to me all this stuff is valuable... and important... but the most important thing to me is the will of the team... to quote Zach "sometimes you just have to cross check somebody in the head" not trying to be an old school ogre here... but lets face is hockey is a physical sport that attempts to intimidate... we almost never were the intimidators... and all to often the intimidatees... its not 60 minutes a night... that is an excuse... it is not taking a skate when the puck is in the corner... it being willing to initiate or take contact to control a puck... its your team mates knowing that you are jumping in when its tough and people wont easily take liberties... and to me until that dynamic changes... nothing changes... Talent will carry this team close to .500 (82pt pace) ... the above will get them in the playoffs...

I was more thinking a sacrifice bunt to move the runner to 3rd who subsequently tripped broke his toe and got tagged out to end the game... he was the star player nd was lost for the rest of the season... or something depressing like that LOL...

Clearly I am concerned about that as well which is why I like this Maybe deal... he didnt go out an commit 2 or 3mm a season on a maybe... this buys us sometime to find out. SO to your point I think that is exactly what Adams is doing... and I will even give him credit for that.... not much else but for that.... it to me makes sense.

Not gonna lie, I would have figured at least a mill... this looks like a fair deal to me.

Honestly, watched him play and thought here is a kid that can really play in this league... so I have hope that he makes a difference... only problem is, everytime I have hope.... well... you know as well as I do... so, I am kinda numb to it all and in lets wait and see... lots a talk, team chemistry change new players etc... I am Missouri... show me...

True... but imo, they can have those players.. I want players that hate playing golf in April and would rather win hockey games than party, and get older and more experienced...

I agree gimmie 15-20 goals 20-25 assist, solid two way guy, hard to play against... drops em when required... you need those guys... and I agree gonna take some time we can only hope if he is going there that Adams doesnt trade him or lose him somehow...

About the same height, needs to fill out a bit more... But a Marcus Foligno with a smidge more scoring comes to mind on the top end.

Sometimes the tarnish fair or not makes me want to walk away.... for right or wrong...

I readily admit that this is strictly my hope with almost no foundation behind it you are 100% correct in that assumption ... now you have to give something to get so I am not sure that Utah didnt have some hope for that but clearly they were not at all convinced ...

I am not sure i have a feeling about Doan... I just do... If he is the anti Peterka with 70% of his numbers you have a guy that plays two ways produces maybe at a 20 goal 45pt pace has size and grit we need 4 more of that

Lol actually I am holding out hope he ends up being the best player in the deal literally for no other reason than I loved his Dad... unreasonable expectation for sure but one can hope he plays a similar game... and that... to your point would clearly help this team... but moreover his dad was a leader and we could use a leader with more alpha game upfront. I am hoping in two years time we look back at this trade and laugh like how could we have shed so much angst .... but we haven't done much of that lately so its a hope ...

I agree here... I think we need to start getting the best player in the trade... but maybe Kesslring was the best player for what we needed... roster construction etc... that's my hope

Ah yes the ol Rochembeau persuasion technique... works brilliantly

I ended up not saving money on my car insurance when i switched to Gieco.. and it turns out the 'Car Warranty' thing... was a scam LOL

Here is the chart...

Couple of honorable mentions... I personally hated trading away Zadorov... we could use his nasty Not signing Ullmark I also think was a major screw up Clearly the biggest after the Eichel mismanagement was not hiring a tenured experienced GM after Murray and Botterill both failed... instead we got a guy whose claim to fame was re doing the bathrooms in KBA... which is impossible to believe until you realized they hired a Soccer executive from England to coach the team... and of course listening to Phyliss Housely preach to the team about "getting to the tough places" was interesting as well...

Truer words LOL....

I am not sure about worst... I think we are closer to the over all worst defensive play to include defenseman and forwards playing two way... I clearly an no where near enamoured with our goaltending... but, I am interested to see if it overall looks better if we have more of a two way team...

Was listening to Brad May say the same thing... players would love to come here if ownership hadnt created the pit of Misery... Dilly Dilly

I worry about this too... but in the end... we are going to have to see if we play better defensively without him... however the Norris concept... I think we got raked if this guy cant stay healthy...

Huge loss....

I have always been in the anyone is available for trade, including Phil Esposito, Pierre Turgeon, Pat LaFontaine etc... so I am fine trading literally anyone on this team... I have two requirements however LOL 1. Its not Adams making those trades 2. We get the best player in the trade Since 1. is not possible at this point, and 2 based on our history and reputation is about as impossible as me dunking a basket ball... I am going to agree with you...

Oh I think you can bet on Greenway, Norris and Muel all on IR at somepoint this season... for sure.