JP51

Yes and I am interested in Carrie Underwood too!

Like no one has ever seen... it falls into the category of "You literally cant make this sh(t up"...

Oh you wont get me to disagree with that... but we are talking Kevyn Adams who let this get to this point... If Peterka is adamant about not coming back then literally he may be only left with the option of letting him get offer sheeted and walk for picks... The other option is to trade a restricted FA before the draft and what are you gonna get for that... not to mention the no trade clauses he has to deal with.... and if you trade him there is a really good shot you watch the team you traded him to let him go via Free Agency and get 2 or 3 1st rd picks as you are walking away with another Josh Norris or Malenstyn... Now, if he can trade him and get a 27 year old two way player that comes in and helps us etc better than Peterka and for what we are willing to pay Peterka... awesome... but how likely is that to happen... I feel like we let him get offer sheeted and take the picks... or Trade him for less than market value and get a typical Adams return... which is likely to be an aging veteran like Zucker or a mid range player like Malenstyn or a flawed prospect that is younger than 27... maybe I am dead wrong but lets see how this plays out... I am picking the worst possible scenario with Adams at the helm... sorry if I am too jaded at this point.

agreed.... but if we dont match him he leaves... and it sounds like we are not even ball park what he wants and if he really wants he can clamor for a trade... and that makes a whole other pile of stew... ultimately I think Adams lets him sign a FA tender doesnt match and takes the picks... it may be the best he can hope for...

Kinda like a relationship break up... I am breaking up with you! ... No you arent... uhm yes I am... well I am not allowing it you are still my girlfriend... you cant leave... reallly.... watch me...

Adams is fired... likely April 2026 or 27 Yes... and the exhaustive research starts with a google check "Is Punch Imlach still alive"....

Yes I am sure he is unaware of job duty changes within the organization because Pegula is running it back... what he didnt say is that he was unaware of outside opportunities that might interest him.... I think if he were to leave it would be that way... not by firing.

I could not agree more... Peterka will become the latest in a long list of players that go elsewhere and become a star because we are incompetent ... Who wants to play for this dysfunction and angst... like seriously its my home town team... I wouldnt ... Kevyn Adams is the bain that just keeps on giving... and Pegula keeps watering him....

Absolutely 100%.... but I also like the idea of being able to dunk a basketball... which I am pretty sure will happen well before Shanahan comes to work under Kevyn Adams...

Me too! I figured I would share LOL

I mean I get it... but there is the playoffs going on.... so certainly lots of folks left out of the mix...

I was gonna say, has anyone mentioned this to Mitch LOL... "Its gonna take money... a whole lota spendin money... "

Exactly, everything that is wrong about the team are fans, taxes, weather, etc... never mind that we trade away players like Eichel, Reinhart, Montour let players like Ullmark walk... then hand out massive contracts like candy to underperfoming players like Power Cozens etc... every where you turn with this cesspool of lunacy its almost like they are trying to sabotage the organization... but of course after 14 years of ineptitude and abject bumbling it is of course our fault... not like we havent been calling for a competent POHO for at least 10 of them... the concept of tanking and losing pervades this organization like a skunk stench on a washed dog... yet they let the player they tanked for leave because they would not listen to his doctors and allow him to have the surgery he wanted (and has played with without complication)... and the other player they tanked for go in Reinhardt because they wouldnt pay him... but as of course I said before it was really important to give Power a huge contract because they like how weak he plays... fans fault though... I mean they don't even talk to us and when they do its a scolding or they are whining like small children about how unfairly the world is responding to their abject ineptitude.. Our fault though, I am a bad person... and fan because I don't love being a laughingstock of the entire professional sports world as much as they apparently do... Our desire to win is clearly getting in the way of them being able to make decisions... and in the end... is there anything... and I mean anything in the sports world more dysfunctional than blaming your fans for your epic lack of competitiveness...

There is always hope... faith however, I have none... faith is earned ... hope is for our own selves... 14 years of ineptitude... I have hope he gets lucky I have no faith in his ability to intentionally do the right thing... but... there is always hope... time will tell....

Watched the whole thing thank you! I remember watching this as a kid!

The Leafs are eliminated.

I was gonna say lol... Matthews wasnt just a passenger, he was on a horse drawn chariot getting fanned and fed grapes... When you are in the 5th ring of Hockey He(( you unfortunately get your joy vicariously thru others pain... and I unfortunately am in that category and despite hating that I am... I am just laughing over here at the Leafs... and hey, no one has a problem laughing at us being the biggest joke in professional sports history.

Their forwards have a lot of nasty in them as well... we have almost no nasty except for the smallest guy on the team...

The key is as a whole to me... as a whole they are lazy uninspired weak cowardly underachieving self centered losers that are better suited to the ice capades.

Oh wait.... lol 😆

I know some people have a high opinion on Karamonos... I dont know enough about him to say one way or the other... I do know this... 1. Kevyn Adams has proven himself incapable and we cannot reasonably believe that if he continues in the organization that he will walk on water and right the ship. 2. Terry and his disorganization from the FO to the players have devastated this brand to the point it repels most players that we would look to make a quick and meaningful change. So, the guy in charge is terrible and not capable... to make matters worse he and Pegula have devalued the brand so badly that they have cut off access to some of the best players available via trade or FA... So that means rebuilding through the draft or changing the brand image so players do not consistently put us in a no trade clause or will reasonably consider us in FA. To do that I think you need to get a hot GM and Assistants with a track record for turning the ship around and winning... to at least begin to address scenario 2. Then maybe you can find some folks that are a hard no currently to change their tune a bit because you have injected theoretical competence and hope... IF you go with Karamonos... and maybe he is the Mecca of GMs... I am not sure that his history of turning around franchises and winning championships etc.. satisfies point 2... or at least to the level that a proven GM with success does. So with him you must accept the likelihood that you are rebuilding through the draft at the onset... and the road to brand fixing is gonna be a bit longer... not saying this is the wrong way... but this is how I see it...

I think I am just gonna simplify it almost like you said it... We need to draft some skilled Aholes with decent size... You had me at destroy LOL

Dude again i just want some skill combined with the nasty... if he is the guy then ok get him. You didn't steer me wrong on Helenius so go get him... But enough of drafting smallish skilled players or size just for size (Power, Muel etc...) we need an attitude adjustment on this team . And if he is your guy and you know it and you have to move up with a player or pick to do it... then do it ... and i have little faith he will do it unfortunately Nice profile on him BTW thanks for that

and I trust you on the dude that hits like a truck I havent seen him play... I have Martone and he looks tough but if Martin is that guy awesome... I just want someone that thinks like Benson and has the size to make people notice... with the trade... I really dont think there is a chance in hell Adams does that... as far as Martone I see him mocked 3 -9 I dont want to trade a huge package to move into that space... but if he drops to a 6 or 7 and that is the guy we want go get him... just please prioritize and acknowledge that a combination of skill size and nasty is a needed component in this team.

The point is I want someone that people note on their calendar they are playing against... that is skilled and physical edgy , nastly... (Benson some times you have to cross check someone in the head with the size to do it) , I liked Martone. If you think I am an idiot for thinking that... ok... I guess that is your right... but if we believe we know how they turn out at 18 years old I would say good luck... That said I am fine with your scenario if you think it works out better... I dont care.. if Martin is the guy that turns out like Tkachuk and we get him awesome... The size is not coachable but yes isnt always necessary. We both can cite a littany of players under 6 3 that I would love and a ton over 6 3 that are easy to play against... most of them are on our roster or have been on our roster at some point. Bottom line just get me a guy with skill that brings the intensity with some size to back it up... and then go get me 3 more. With respect to the trade up, I am not sure where you are going with that unless you are saying there is some kind of unwritten rule that says if you are 10 or below never trade back... but if you are 11 its ok like we did with San Jose last year... I guess so... but I dont believe that if we have identified a play we want in a weaker draft it is an impossibility to move from 9 to 7 and get the guy we want... if you think it is... great... Bottom line is it isnt happening anyways ... I dont see Adams doing that... The 5 10 170 analogy is exactly as you saw it... skill players that dont have the physicality... so like you said... size isnt the only measurement ... So like this Martin kid... 6 feet maybe can play at 205 lbs full grow hits like a truck... not in that analogy... Rosen Savoie Peterka Quinn Kulich actually despite huge size and to your point Power... those are the guys I am referring too.... Benson even smaller... not in the category.... Now.. I did give you credit on the Helenius pick from last year... because I saw the European and the size and didnt like it... but he does seem to have an edge... Tzkchuk... no... but certainly you hopefully add him in the team tough. Again, bottom line and simple... just watching the nastiness of these playoffs this team is ill prepared for that type of hockey... and if they are going anywhere it needs to change... get me players with nasty in them that will allow the Peterkas, quinns, rosens, Kulich etc... to use their skill Benson for that matter too...