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Jost had partial year here not far off what Krebs did and he can play Wing, Penalty Kill. Better 4th line Center than Krebs as far as checking goes. Didn't get Krebs from Las Vegas to be a 4th line Center. Krebs needs to break the 3rd line someday. I bet Savoie breaks the TOP 6, maybe even Kulich before. I see NO PATH for Krebs to do this. Jost doesn't need to, 4th liner pure and simple. Never be a 20 goal scorer, doesn't need to be. Go to long with Krebs, he will be OLD and no trade value. Again, NOT about Krebs, about the Prospects and he just put bad numbers up. Can't be more than a 4th line center without injury long term. That happens, has no TRADE VALUE. Sabres don't go to the playoffs. Krebs becomes top 3 center next year, we are done.

If Krebs beats them out then they won't see the Sabres team for 2-3 years. Middlestat will have to be traded if they don't sign him, RFA, lose him on price. Savoie or Kulich are NOT beating out the current Wingers. Rousek will be on the team, need his two way play, drive to net and Penalty kill. Not jumping ahead without complete failure next year of Quinn and Peterka. Greenway is going nowhere for at least next year. If Granto gets it to work he will be a Sabre for many years, size alone dictates that. So if they don't show what they have this year not much of a chance they break the lineup anytime soon. This is all assuming Olofsson is gone too. This teams drives to the playoffs won't be much room. Get better and better as constructed. The spot to take is Krebs. Neither are big enough to go to winger with him on 4th line, usually a checking line. i am 57, THANKS

25 and can't change, How old is Middlestat, Tage when they changed?

JUST SHOOT THE PUCK

9 pts for 26 total and can't hit the net. Dahlin 15 for 73, defense Olofsson 28 for 40 everybody wants him gone Quinn 14 for 37 not enough BUT Peterka 12 for 32 not enough but Okoposo 11 for 28 old but Captain' Jost mid year 7 for 22 maybe Krebs beats him out but a full year here, NOT Power 4 for 35 19 years old rookie no AHL plays DEFENSE Didn't do Cozens, Middlestat or 1st line because it isn't close. So I am suppose to believe Krebs can beat out someone, WHO? Girgenson, that's who. If your really a Sabre fan, you should want better. All the players in the system matter to put the best team forward. Many here just want to be right but have no proof on stats or even AHL or minor league play compared to who is coming up. Krebs was already traded and only a piece of the trade. He has had a whole year. Not seeing 20 goals and 30 assists for 50 next year and honestly, not enough. Benched in LV. Bench for games here, NOT because of rotation, terrible Winger. I can still here Marty Biron'. JUST SHOOT THE PUCK

9 goals for 26 pts is very EASY for Savoie alone to beat out and he will get THAT chance. If Not him then Kulich, if NOT him them Jost (if signed), etc... Adams has to get to the Playoffs. Krebs Stat line NOT good enough, so next camp he will have to get more goals then the 19 year old players or he will be Benched or traded. Krebs CAN'T break top 3 lines as Center or Winger so he has to be 4th line or bench and he can't do anything else but Center at this point over other players. Everybody keeps talking POTENTIAL, that Potential was suppose to be shown like Quinn and Peterka. You see what they can do if they shoot. You except the stat lines. I see Krebs shoot and I say PASS THE PUCK. He misses the pass and I have other verbs I use. TELL ME I AM WRONG, actually don't because so far I haven't seen a honest opinion on this subject yet. Be the first to admit I am wrong if proven otherwise next camp. I was wrong about Middlestat, but only one year, this second half. I am 57 years old watched Sabres since 79 that I remember. I have seen GREAT players. I have seen the Cyr's too, all the potential but it just didn't stick and Krebs is NOT Paul Cyr. Not Middlestat either and all that matters is what he is now because everyone else is in the system too and will get BIGGER, Stronger, faster, better shots. They are all young, even Jost. Don't see a path for Krebs, Adams isn't just gonna give it to him next year like he did this.

Quinn Top Level Prospect, Pass, Assists, good shot if he shoots. Can play with Cozens or Middlestat (C). Cozens needs proven scorers now. Pretty sure Rousek ends up on one of these two lines too. Greenway Rousek will balance lines with Peterka and Quinn other side. I like Greenway Cozens Peterka, Quinn Middlestat Rousek (this line will be fast and gets Quinn the puck to SHOOT) unless they get Top 4 Winger.

Kulich won't break our winger lineup, be in Rochester if he doesn't win Center Position. Either way this is about Krebs, he won't break the Winger lineup either, have to win 4th line Center. He can't beat Middlestat unless he is traded. Krebs has to beat JOST, Savoie, Kulich, Östlund, even maybe Girgenson (if signed) if it is the last player in. You seem NOT to want to acknowledge this fact. Krebs does only 1 thing Center and assists (can't hit the net, assuming he shoots) Who does Krebs keep of the Roster? Mind you, not OUR draft pick, part of a trade already won. You think Adams doesn't want to show the world one of his 3 Centers drafted HIGH 1st round. Kulich has part of the Eichel trade NO? Krebs will be in camp, far as I will go where he lands!

Savoie and Kulich are top level players where they are, producing. Krebs has Potential but he hasn't reached the Level at there age in the minors or LV wouldn't have traded him. Not a Team out there that didn't ask Adams for those two in a trade at the Deadline. If they would have taken Krebs, We would be in the Playoffs right now. Mike Drop Boom!

I think you mean there is NO WAY Adams will. I don't blame him now. Other ways to get 4th position Defense. Freeagent Goalies available. But keeping Middlestat as Center of 3rd line puts a lot of pressure on Krebs, since he won't beat out any Winger, not even Olofsson (hell of a shot, Powerplay). Krebs will have to beat out Jost, Kulich, Savoie and any number of other centers in Minors to be 4th line center. Even Girgenson could beat him out I think, production alone if signed, he plays many more spots for team (Center, Wing, PK)

You know it is funny when Tage went out who took up the production, for that matter when hurt too. The guys on the outside did, not Krebs, even Quinn and Peterka didn't produce a ton of goals. Middlesat got assists to Tage and Skinner. Levi kept games closer to win. 3rd line gave us some help. We would be in the playoffs if Krebs produced a bit more. two lousy point, one game against Florida. 😶

Every time Krebs played Wing he was out of the game after watching. His only place to stay in was 4th line. Results, Marginal. Every person on the Sabres broadcasts have said Krebs is done at Wing. Granto has not put Krebs in on Wing even when Tuch went down. Krebs can't play wing, his shot sucks! Were you NOT saying he was a 1C. That is the case he beats out two wingers in Quinn and Peterka since he plays wing. You just won't say it or you mis-spoke he was a 1C. Your point taken, but it still stands Middlestat on this team is no better than a 3rd liner. That is my point. That has changed, Tuch produces like Eichel, not the same talent but better leader. Adams won that trade with 1st pick too. Krebs still develop in Rochester, no Gonna get beat out in camp or Savoie and Kulich are not the real deal, top 6 Centers/Wingers some day. Keep Middlestat no room for Krebs. Right now, he is good trade bait for potential. "JOST" no room 😂 Never said he wasn't valuable Valuable as a trade Valuable on 3rd line Valuable as backup for TOP 6 in injury What point? Tell me who Middlestat removes in TOP 6. I said Peterka but I know the board here wouldn't do that, Holy Grail right now. Besides, when Peterka is remove from 2nd line we tend to Lose games, that baffles me from his stat line but somehow he makes that line work. Teams need Potential and Cheap young players, Not Expense Vets who complain. I would be keeping Krebs if we didn't draft 3 Centers last year. Two have earned BIG chances in Buffalo. Middlestat suddenly becoming a Center that can play TOP 6 has muddled things to. NOT sure Adams would trade him at 2.5 Million. Really not about who Krebs is, about how talented Buffalo has become and deep Rochester and the Minors are. We were over staffed last year and brought two men in trade as Wingers, Jost and Greenway. There are three players ready to come up. Having hard time making lines without moving people. Sure would be nice having Girgenson back too. Gonna give away Olofsson, 28 goals? will he have a good Return? You know Adams will not just give him away. When benched, always produces goals when he comes back. Do we win last two games without him? Tage was out, Olofsson produced. Adams is going to take 28 goals over Krebs unless he gets value back. We SHALL see! Yes I am saying just that. Krebs stat line sucks. He is a fighter and played well that way on 4th line but does nothing when he moves up. Power, Levi, Quinn all produce young over older players, age has nothing to do with TOP LEVEL Talent How hard is it to sub plant a 4th line Center? Yes, do we have 2-4 years to do this? Who stays off Roster to do this?

EXACTLY, but at 2.5mil I am A O K with Middlestat as 3rd line Center. Who plays with him more Important, they have to be scorers now, not potential. Middlestat is an Assist machine. Krebs passes are off and goal shooting off net. So he is either to slow skating or brain is too slow. He is not instinctive.

So your giving up on 3 Centers that got drafted by Adams last year making Roster

Mind you Krebs had NHL experience in LVK 2021 Amerks Krebs 18 4 11 15 -12 .75 2022 Amerks Kulich 61 24 22 46 -7 .75 So how did Krebs out perform Kulich in the minors? Krebs .22 goals per game Kulick .39 goals per game. -12 to -7 and 18 to 61 games played, so in 18 games he is a -12???? Had a full year Gonna keep Savoie and/or Kulich in Rochester???? Jost???? Middlestat at Center????? Krebs Winger????

Jost can play Center and Wing. That puts him over Krebs right now. Could care less about Potential, I have potential but like beer or I would be an ALLSTAR 🤣

"As you well know, we have a bunch more forwards in the prospect pool, its time for Adams to clear out some forwards to upgrade the defense." DEFINETLY

Who do you kick out of the TOP 6?

Compare Tage's stats to Middlestat's. Compare Middlestat to Cozens. Compare Middlestat to Tuch. Compare Middlestat to Skinner. Compare Middlestat to Quinn. Compare Middlestat to Peterka Only one he beats out is Peterka

Have to keep two of these on the roster for Penalty Kill, not sure all three can fit. Remember, they have to give you some offense. Girgs Jost Rousek pick your two My two are Jost and Rousek

So how do you get 3 centers drafted 1st round into the line up? Jost and Krebs are young. I would take Jost before Krebs, can play Wing. Your making like all players on team move forward. There are at least 3 in Rochester who can make roster over the people on it now. Think Krebs is odd man out but let camp decide that. Middlestat is the one I am intrigued with. If he can land a 4th position 1 dimensional defensive man to go with Powers than I would trade him for that. Just have to many players Won't be upset if he stays now on 2.5 million, two way player now and two positions.

Forgot the 3 Centers drafted last year. Two are knocking on the door REAL HARD

If Mitts not traded, you don't give contract, RFA, so you see what is offered out there to him. You can match or get lots of picks. He is cheap next year and Dahlin HAS to be signed after July 1st. Need room for trades to get better. Money isn't going to a guy who played 1 in 5 good years.

Krebs has to get faster too, won't be with us with 3 Centers drafted 1st round last year. If he could play winger, maybe he stays, but 1 dimensional position players won't stay on a 4th line. Jost is better for that right now. Krebs, no rush to trade, keep for camp and Injury right now. He won't be starting for Sabres next year on top four lines. For that matter Girgenson can be resigned too for flexibilty and 13 man in too if he wants to stay. Can play all positions if needed.

Hinestroza is a UFA. Jost is 4th line Center. If Middlestat stays, he is the 3rd line Center, proven that with 1st line play. My thinking is Middlestat is traded cause we have two Centers who can come up. Middlestat brings in a good player. Kulich or Savoie can man 3rd line Center next year. They can keep Krebs just in case and trade if Kulich or Savoie win spot in Preseason, then trade Krebs. Jost was gotten mid season and has played well for Sabres. Good two way Center (1st round pedigree) Olofsson won't be given away, had 28 goals. His shot is top line stuff but NOT a two way guy, streaky also. Probably work well on Third line with protection Olofsson Middlestat/Kulich/Savoie Rousek If Middlestat stays then Jost and/or Krebs go in trades. Top two lines are made without a trade for Top 4 Winger. No way Kulich and/or Savoie are not on roster next year Could see Greenway Savoie Kulich line