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GDT: Buffalo at Carolina, 4 Dec 2021, 7:30 pm ET, MSG, WGR
JohnC replied to Doohicksie's topic in The Aud Club
My main criticism of the GM is that even if he couldn't secure a long-term quality goalie to build around he could have done a much better job at securing a better quality goalie/s for the short term. Not having that baseline level of competent netminding is sabotaging the rest of the rebuild. -
GDT: Buffalo at Carolina, 4 Dec 2021, 7:30 pm ET, MSG, WGR
JohnC replied to Doohicksie's topic in The Aud Club
He was traded in July but prior to that he was put on waivers in January. It is very likely that KA thought that he was going to get a deal done with Ullmark who was going to be a free agent. It didn't work out as the GM hoped. He should have had some better options ready for the possibility of not being able to sign Ullmark. https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/31863098/carolina-hurricanes-trade-goalie-alex-nedeljkovic-detroit-red-wings -
Anderson in general did play well for us. But it was a major gamble from a durability standpoint to rely on such an older player who was on the precipice of retirement. As you and others have pointed out the GM made a damning mistake by not having an adequate fallback position for the possibility of losing Ullmark, a free agent goalie. He should have had a much better option in his pocket for that possibility. You can't control what a player decides to do when he is a free agent but you should be prepared with reasonable options for the potential loss. Compare what Yzerman did in the offseason to address the goalie position with how KA did? He acquired Alex Nedeljkovic for a reasonable price. And there were other reasonable options due to goalies being exposed for the expansion draft. We could have offered a draft pick for a goalie who could have been a better option than going for the riskier route of getting Anderson as your primary goalie. He would have been a better option as your secondary goalie. The Sabres have a number of deficiencies that go beyond the goalie position. So I don't want to get carried away by blaming all problems with this roster on that position. But by buttressing that position you can at least for the short-term compensate for the other problematic areas. My worry is that the psychology of losing is going to demoralize our young players. In the Carolina game (I intermittently watched) it seemed as if Dahlin was a beaten man. That bothers me very much. https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/31863098/carolina-hurricanes-trade-goalie-alex-nedeljkovic-detroit-red-wings
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As you noted there should be a worry about the mounting losses creating a psychology of losing that demoralizes the young core as it did with the last core. The situation that resulted in Jack/Risto/Reinhart wanting out primarily revolved around the issue of constant losing and the inability to foresee a change in the near future. Does anyone doubt that Reinhart was glad that he was on the home bench instead of the visiting bench in the Florida game? I'm not a pessimist regarding the near future of the Sabres. The organization seems to have a number of high end prospects ready to make the jump next season, or soon thereafter. But my fear is that another season laid on top of the past few seasons will dispirit this promising young core to the point where some of them will want another place to play.
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You can have an upgrade in net and still be scored upon. Whether you have mediocre to bad backstopping it becomes even more exposed with inadequate defensive coverage. I'm not arguing which issue is more important because they are linked. The Sabres currently have insufficient staffing at the goalie position. That's obvious. It becomes even more manifested when you have a sieve defense. There are just too many glaring coverage mistakes that lead to opportunities that are easily converted. A goal by deflection is one thing but an easy tap in because a player is uncovered is a major problem. It happens too often.
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The Sabres would have a better record if Ullmark was our primary goalie. Few people would argue otherwise. But I'm not convinced that this would be a playoff team because the defensive coverage is atrocious. It's obvious why so many are fixated on our goaltending deficiencies. It's a problem that is starkly evident. However, when you have below average backstopping along with weak defensive coverage then your goaltending deficiency becomes exponentially worse. When mediocre goalies constantly get bombarded with ripe scoring chances then you get this repeated flurry of goals in short periods. The Florida game, among other games, was an example of this. How many people truly believed that after the Sabres scored the first three goals that the Sabres would coast to a victiory? I didn't. This team has a number of issues that go beyond the goalie issue related to the overall talent level of its roster. I just don't see this front office willing to expend resources to significantly upgrade the position this season. It's going to be a tough year.
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Thank you for your terrific analysis. I was listening to Paul Hamilton discuss Perterka on WGR awhile back. Everything you stated corresponded to what he said about JJ. And what he emphasized (as you noted) is that he had a way to go to learn the defensive side of the game. He was very positive about him but felt that he had a lot more work to do on his defensive game before moving up to the next level. Kevin Adams moved up in the draft to pick him. In the not too distant future that maneuver to select him could prove to be an exceptional move.
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@inkmanand @dudacek thank you for your matching evaluations. How about your respective evaluations of Peterka? Will he be ready to move up by next season?
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For those contributors such as @Norcal, @dudacek, @inkmanand anyone else who watch Rochester games how do you rate Krebs's play so far? Is he playing up to the expectation of some that he will be on the Sabres' roster next year or maybe even sometime this season? Just curious.
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When I look at the list of young players that you presented the issue becomes how long is it going to take before the critical mass of these young players become a factor with the Sabres. Next year, I see an infusion of half a dozen players (including Tuch to this group) that will reshape this roster. In my estimation it will take another year or two for those players to become more established. When I look at the sparse crowds in the arena I'm just hope that the organization does something like upgrading the netminding to accelerate the rebuilding process and give the fans something to hold on to.
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You two are a couple of the more knowledgeable hockey people here. You don't have to like the person to engage with that person. When it gets to the point where it gets personal then it is time to stand back and let things cool down. Sometimes when strong-willed and opinionated people duel it gets more heated than necessary. Very often you learn more from people you disagree with than with people you agree with. You just have to listen harder and dig through to what is actually being said. And you know very well that on a few occasions I have been the target of your bombardments. On those occasions you pissed me off! But I stood back and let the embers cool. I'm glad I did. The point here is that you don't have to go to the wall on every point you disagree with, especially when it is with someone you have some animus toward. I appreciate @Taro T and your contributions. That is not to say that I always agree or am happy with the sharp retorts given back. The operative word for the day is: Tolerance. I apologize if I come off as preachy or sanctimonious.
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I read @Taro T and your comments about Levi's ability to handle rugged play. I agree more with your take than with his take on the player. But that isn't the problem with the exchange here. In my opinion you framed your response to him in a hard challenging way that wasn't required. If you would have asked in less pugnacious/antagonistic way to elaborate as to why he felt that Levi was more vulnerable than bigger goalies the response back would have been less sharp. Very often in a dialogue the tone can drown out the point. I believe that is what happened here. It can't be denied that the stature of a goalie has become an important consideration when evaluating prospects. In the NHL of today most franchises prefer bigger goalies than smaller players. That's one of the main considerations when evaluating the position. The issue is more related to how the position is played in today's NHL than it is related to durability. However, it can't be denied that Levi's play has been outstanding in college. And it isn't a stretch to believe that right now he might be our best goalie prospect in the system.
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GDT: Seattle at Buffalo-November 29, 2021-7pm-MSG, ESPN+, WGR550
JohnC replied to Brawndo's topic in The Aud Club
As you point out Tanev basically out-muscled him and Dahlin struggled to keep up. He's certainly not a finished product. And he has the raw skills where there is more room to grow. From my vantage he's the least of this team's problems. There are occasions where our defense puts the goalie in a vulnerable situation; and there are situations where the goalie doesn't do enough to support the defense. This team needs more additions starting with the backstops. -
GDT: Seattle at Buffalo-November 29, 2021-7pm-MSG, ESPN+, WGR550
JohnC replied to Brawndo's topic in The Aud Club
I simply don't see what other people are seeing when evaluating Dahlin. It is obvious that he had some lapses last night that proved costly. But overall when you review how he has played thus far he has played very well. What I have seen in his game is less razzle dazzle and simpler and more efficient play. He is playing a lot more disciplined game. In my eyes that is a progression. There is a broader context that needs to be considered when evaluating him. It shouldn't be forgotten that he is playing on a less than fully staffed team. Thus there is less support and more individual exposure. A lot is being asked of him. He is playing more minutes than he probably should at this point. A lot is being asked of this young defenseman and for the most part he is holding up reasonably well. -
GDT: Seattle at Buffalo-November 29, 2021-7pm-MSG, ESPN+, WGR550
JohnC replied to Brawndo's topic in The Aud Club
I also want an upgrade in goaltending. I don't know anyone who has stated otherwise. Putting aside the goaltending issue last night's game demonstrated to me that there was a clear difference in effort between the two teams. I'm starting to see it more and more as the losses mount. I'm bothered by it. I'm hoping that trend doesn't continue. I've attached a WGR link that includes a 10 min segment with Granato. He talks about the game, Dahlin and the injured players. He seems to believe that this faltering is all part of a learning process. I'm a strong believer in Granato as a coach for this team in this rebuilding situation. There's just a long way to go. One hurdle at a time. https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/authors/howard-and-jeremy -
GDT: Seattle at Buffalo-November 29, 2021-7pm-MSG, ESPN+, WGR550
JohnC replied to Brawndo's topic in The Aud Club
What was most disappointing about this game was evident right from the beginning: Seattle had more energy and was forcing the play. They were a road team at the end of a long cross country trip while we were at home. Yet they played with more vigor. The home record for the Sabres is dismal. They are playing in an arena that is 3/4s empty while on the road they are playing in front of near capacity and enthusiastic crowds. (Not blaming the customers.) My fear is that the mounting losses accumulated over the past few years will dispirit our young core as it did with our previous young core that was dispatched. The truth of the matter is that there isn't enough talent on the current roster. What's positive and provides some hope is that there are some young players in the pipeline that are close to being ready to move up. But my concern is that this steady stream of losing will mushroom into a malaise as it did under Krueger. I'm hoping that the return of Mitts, and a little later Tuch, will help to jolt this lackluster playing team . My big worry is that the psychology of losing infects the young core as it did with the previous core. -
Will Laaksonen make the roster next year? What's his style of play? If Power, Samuelsson and Laaksonen are on the roster next year that's quite a young group on the blue line. If you add them with Joki and Dahlin you are looking at a unit with a lot of young players.
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What's apparent is that the label that Olofsson is basically only a PP scorer and spot shooter no longer applies. He's become a full-length player who is developing a well-rounded two-way game that includes good passing. He made one pass to Tage that gave him a gaping open area to score on. Another young player that I'm impressed with is Asplund. He's become a solid NHL player and one of our most consistent players. There is little flash in his fundamentally sound game. I'm hoping that when Mitts gets back he continues on with the progression in his game like these other young players. As @dudacek and others have stated not only is Okposa is currently one of our better players but he is also a positive influence on the youngsters. He's embracing a mentoring role that not all veteran players are keen on doing. He's classy leader and person. There isn't a player I admire more on this team than him.
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My observations are very similar to @Norcal and @dudacek's observations. This is one of the best games I have seen Skinner play from an all-around game. He made some nifty passes that contributed to Tage scores. And what is even more appreciated is his consistent effort along the boards and tracking his man. There has been a lot less floating and a lot more play within his unit. (Coaching matters.) And repeating what others observed in this game I liked the play of Eakin. He's possibly our most tenacious player. It took a year to understand why he was signed. The time off due to injury didn't seem to hurt Joki's game. I thought he was our best defenseman in this game. He logged a lot of minutes. He's not a flashy player so much as an efficient player. When the Sabres get good goaltending without the soft goal mishaps this team can keep up with the opposition even against the more talented teams. Tok was very efficient and I thought the defense played well around him. If you are a Sabre fan you are not in a position to disparage any other team. But Montreal was very lackluster. It seems as if their players are just going through the motions. They already look like a demoralized team. A win against Detroit would be big especially when the next game is against Seattle. It would be terrific to string some wins together.
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Is Don Granato the best coach the Sabres have had since Lindy Ruff?
JohnC replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
What was even worse than the mounting losses under Krueger were the steady stream of blah games. It just sucked the life out of the audience. At least under Granato not are the players more energized after the life had been sucked out of them but watching them has become more than palatable. For now that might be acceptable but the wins need to follow soon. -
Is Don Granato the best coach the Sabres have had since Lindy Ruff?
JohnC replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
As a coach Granato's forte revolves more around the psychology of developing players more than it does around systems. You are right that from a starting point he places more emphasis on offense, and then builds from there. Interestingly, he noted that he was also in the business of entertainment and was conscious in providing a style of play that highlights that aspect of the game. No one can deny that even with the mounting losses this is a more entertaining team than from the past. -
Is Don Granato the best coach the Sabres have had since Lindy Ruff?
JohnC replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
Within this WGR link is the 15 min interview with Granato on the Howard and Jeremy show that you are alluding to. He has strong beliefs in how to develop players and improve teams. He's certainly doesn't have an old school hockey approach to the game. https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/authors/howard-and-jeremy -
GDT 11/22/21 - Columbus Blue Jackets @ Buffalo Sabres 7:00 MSG
JohnC replied to inkman's topic in The Aud Club
Your observation about the overall effort is spot on. No problem with that. But as you point out when the goaltending is so substandard (acknowledging that up to recently it has been solid) it does affect how your team plays, especially in your own zone (as you noted). In the games that the backstopping is good this team is competitive even when it is apparent that there is an imbalance in talent with the opposition. My worry is that the psychology of losing becomes more damaging on the younger players that you are counting on for the future when they haven't had any experience with the psychology of winning. The Sabres are clearly in the rebuilding mode with some good young pieces already on the roster. What bothers me, as it does most others, is I don't see what short term options there are to at least for the present stem the tide. What also bothers me is when the Sabres play at home they are playing in front of 3/4 empty arena. However, when the Sabres are on the road they are usually playing in front of a near capacity crowd. The Ranger game was an example of that. (I'm not telling you anything you don't already know because you regularly attend the games.) I'm not blaming the fans because they are expressing their dissatisfaction with their wallets. But it has to be deflating for the players when they take the ice. -
GDT 11/22/21 - Columbus Blue Jackets @ Buffalo Sabres 7:00 MSG
JohnC replied to inkman's topic in The Aud Club
Washington worked a pre-expansion draft deal with Seattle for them to select one of their goalies and then trade the player back for a second round pick. With a little creativity maybe we could have worked out a deal with Seattle in advance to select one of the exposed goalies and then use a draft pick for the selected player. Getting a better solution is preferrable over getting a predictably inadequate solution. -
GDT 11/22/21 - Columbus Blue Jackets @ Buffalo Sabres 7:00 MSG
JohnC replied to inkman's topic in The Aud Club
From a future perspective I have the same positive outlook that you have. That is to say that a foundation is being built with its young players. My biggest worry that has happened before with our core players is that systemic losing becomes corrosive and dispiriting. That is exemplified by ROR, Jack, Reinhart and Risto all becoming emotionally and psychologically fatigued by the constant losing resulting in each of them desperately wanting out. Each player had somewhat different situations but at its core the issue was losing and the inability to envision a change in that dynamic in the near future. As you point out the expected shaky goaltending (after some quality goaltending) is starting to manifest itself. The fear of contaminating the rest of the roster which you allude to is a big worry. What is the short-term answer? I don't know. This is an issue that is usually addressed in the offseason. The GM didn't have an adequate fallback position with regards to Ullmark. That oversight is a costly mistake that can reverberate throughout the rest of the roster.