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Very true. He should have been a Sabre. East Coast team and exposure. Best fan base in the league. 15K go see him play in Juniors. It was supposed to be - I think the FO and Terry got sucked in to that without understanding its very likely to NOT happen.

I wonder how much they convinced themselves they were going to get McDavid, and the sting of that kind of lurking around. Maybe it bristled Jack and thus always doomed from the start. TM's reaction on Lotto night always irked me still does to this day. They just seemed so convinced - like you have to be saying going into the season and then the Lotto - look, we're going to get a great player. We have stock piled picks and assets to start a new era. Eichel or McDavid, it doesn't matter he's just one piece albeit an important one. I'm just mussing out loud here trying to figure out how it all went wrong. In reality it was a bunch of things stacked up on each other.

No doubt and a handful of other guys Scandella, Skinner I didn't think needed mentioning I was just referencing the ones we are trading. Collectively just wasn't right and they did themselves no favors.

Sam's character on full display today. "I don't know why I didn't get a long term deal." But if we trust Adams isn't lying....Sam was never staying beyond this season. This organization is a disaster. But let's stop avoiding calling out some of these players for what they are and what they failed to do here. As I said before, for having ROR Jack Sam and Risto.....and not sniff the playoffs, it's got to get blown up, the culture you can't measure with a computer in that room was atrocious. Sam and to a much larger extent Jack failed the team and the city. They should grow the heck up and own it on their way out of town. The organization may deserve their scorn if it makes them feel better but the fans don't deserve to hear anything other then "yea we failed 3 GMs and 4 coaches....we needed to do more and we let them down." Bye. So looking forward to this reset.

If the AAV is over 9 million that's why he didn't get a long term deal. I like Sam. But he's not worth that. He's a great 3rd line player on a Stanley Cup team. He will not be a top 6 player on a Cup team Zero chance. He was a top 6 player here and we didn't even sniff the playoffs with him and Jack and ROR. The end. Time to move on.

Yep same here.

Yea I'm not getting the hate over what was clearly a guy they targeted. Size? That's it? I'm intrigued for sure but I'm a build from the net out guy first.

. The first rounder would still be in the 20s and what if he gets hurt? And I'm sure he'd just be a happy warrior all season.

Adams has 5 years job security. This is a full tear down rebuild. It's not tanking. They're doing what needs to be done to build a team of players that A. Want to be here and B. Aren't tainted with 6 plus years of being the worst franchise in professional sports. Now get 2 elite prospects for Jack and it's a great start. Getting 1st overall next year fast tracks it. But we'll worry about that next April.

He has clearly told everyone he's going to market. The bridge deals hurt us here but whatever.

Wonder if this leak came from Florida prematurely. We didn't have any reason to excite our fans at midnight last night.

He isn't planning on being last. They want to win. That message will be clear. It just isn't going to happen. This will take years.

Chad makes the point I'm making about RFA status

No UFA worth a dam is coming here. We're already a lock to be a bottom 5 team.

This is all I'm trying to figure out. Because as soon as an RFA is traded it usually comes with a new contract....I think. How much is his RFA status an issue? Would we give up elite or high end prospects for an RFA that won't sign long term here? How much leverage does Sam have?

Because teams that sense they can win it tend to spend more at the trade deadline for valuable (possible rentals) then teams over the summer who hope to keep said potential rental long term but he isn't sure he wants to stay there. Yes I do think you'd get more in a deadline deal in this situation. Florida isn't parting with anything significant if they don't think they can lock him up - can someone offer sheet Sam, etc. We'll see what the return is but if it's what's reported what other reason you got besides Adams sucks.

How is Sam's contract situation not impacting this? If so he should have been dealt at the deadline, no?

He'll be 6'0 and 185 - 190 by the time he's 21 and in the NHL. Patrick Kane was also 5'10 and 162 when drafted. Relax folks.

I'm feeling confident the return on Eichel and Sam will include several C prospects.

7G and 2 assists at the U18s Never has had more assists then Goals in a season. Pure goal scorer.

Ha! Fitting. He says in step 4 of 5, to repeat steps 1 thru 3. Meaning he never gets to step 5. Putting the process in an endless loop you never get out of. Like the Sabres.....I kid I kid. Not really.

Twitter responses in Flyers land agree

But it's a weak draft.....lol *ducks*

Let's go!!