Drag0nDan

Experts thought Nylander was a better prospect than sergachev, McAvoy, and chychrun. They have made mistakes before. I just can't take another Nylander or mittelstadt. This kid has good production in ohl, and seems to be a hard worker. Hopefully he has the humility and leadership qualities to succeed. Please be SOMETHING

Limited space to fit that hit under the cap, and limited goalie spots. I think they're either buying him out, or waiting til the goalie musical chairs game ends and seeing who's left wanting an overpriced goalie.

Depending on the meaning of that lower cost mandate, it may be a higher cap hit player who has lower salary requirements.

The Lightning will look a lot different in the near future. Point will get a 4-5 million dollar raise after next year. Cirelli gets a big bump. Sergachev will want a payday too. They project 5.3 mil in cap space and don't have cirelli or sergachev under contract, and they have 3 defensemen currently. The only players without NTC/NMC are Hedman (yeah right), Point (keep dreaming), and Killorn (4.5 million on a M-NTC). So the most you can move out of there is about 4.5 getting them to about 10. Is that enough to sign cirelli and sergachev? Maybe? Doesn't fill out the rest of the roster though. It's also hard to ask the guys who have been underpaid on your team for the last couple years to be the ones to take paycuts. I think offer sheets are also possible, that or both could be traded.

Probably because he was a healthy scratch.

The difference between good and great in the playoffs is usually a hot goalie, and some secondary scoring.

He brought in 2 dmen in trades... didnt move any out. Who's fault was that?

A lot of losing, and injuries/rehab. Many players would just call it quits, its probably rather depressing and lonely. Then when you come back you're immediately trade bait. I don't blame buffalo either, he didn't do a thing when he was here other than cost a lot and be injured.

My friend used to call weber "not butler".

Right - we desperately lacked a cohesive 2nd scoring line. There wasn't even a 2nd center capable of taking offensive zone draws at a decent clip, let alone also providing some scoring. Teams could use a shutdown line on eichel, and then almost every team was able to deploy whomever they wanted against our 2nd and 3rd lines.

Third line is where a playoff team makes their bones. Either a shutdown line that can chip in some scoring - or a young line that flies.

Cheap and somehow his salary is less... this trade legit makes no sense. I truly don't understand.

even kahun wasn't a bad move. Dumped rodrigues and sheary and got back a player with term who may be better than either.

I tend to agree. He'd need to light it up at the AHL level to move ahead of that timeline. Then again, carter hart has been pretty solid at 21 so who the hell knows anymore.

yep - and for that reason I'm open to a reinhart trade. When i say open i mean.. I'd be willing to move him for a more cost controlled player and maybe a prospect. Fit is important since depending on free agency - this player would ideally slot with eichel. I also mean - don't just trade him because we can't afford him. We can. Depends on the offer.

Everyone wanted to sign him at the time. It was taboo for me to say - I don't want a ton of term on this deal since he's 27. The contract won't age well. What i didnt think was that he was going to just crater in year 1.

Never seems to be in the right place, and thinks he can outskate everyone... which he can't. He needs a lot of work - and probably a full year in AHL.

Mitts in rochester - for the most part i approve. Only issue might be that... i think there's 2 PK forwards listed there in asplund and i guess lazar. So it likely falls to cozens and...? i'm not sure. Our PK was really bad a year ago, and a lot of that is the D sure, but there wasn't exactly a strong group of forwards killing penalties either.

Plenty of 18-19 year olds have had excellent seasons (https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/player-age/18-year-old-nhl-forwards.html). It's an if hes ready type of thing - it isn't an end all be all. If he looks good it shouldn't be out of the question.

Right - at this point can we salvage him? If his stocks at an all time low how much value does he have? If were moving Risto/Montour + a prospect - is he more valuable than a Ruotsalainen or Johnson?

Like there was a progression in his high school stats from sophomore to senior year - but its not as if he was that much more dominant than he was as a sophomore. It really is just the tournaments where his stats look pretty great. But as much as its a jump in competition, its also a jump in improved linemates etc.

I think the concern when you look at something like this stat sheet - http://www.mynhldraft.com/2017/NHL-Draft-Profiles/Casey-Mittelstadt Just - nothing there wows me. He had a couple nice tournaments and then played alright at Minnesota. He didn't like jump off the page stat wise at minnesota either. Why did we even sign him after that season?

I'm open to anything at this point. There needs to be at least 4 forwards that are comfortable killing penalties though. If Girgs/Larsson don't both return that leaves a big gaping hole there. Asplund is probably the only potential call-up that fits in that role, maybe you could include lazar there. But if your line 3 is kahun/johansson/olofsson - any winger/2C that is brought in most likely needs to be a 2 way player. You could let cozens play center and just try and load that line. Grab wingers to fill out the rest of the roster maybe. I think we're all nervous to do that since mittelstadt failed so spectacularly, and the definition of insanity... but if you can't find a center at the very least move a dman and go after some wingers.

Its fairly dependent on what the solution is at 2C. But i don't think putting cozens on line 3 with thompson and johannson is going to be very good for literally any of them.

I don't get the vibe that he's going to just jump out and become some amazing player. As of now i'd put him behind dahlin and jokiharju as our best puck movers - and i don't knwo that i want either playing with montour so that puts him as a bottom pairing defenseman here. He's not particularly strong in his own end, and his shot isn't very good either. I guess we'll see, but i don't see us getting a ton back from trading him at this point.