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Given how much this team CAN score, I would put the steadying of the defence with boring, capable veterans and adding good goaltending could turn this around as soon as next year.

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I was told many years ago that "future considerations" can be something like throwing in an extra late pick in a later trade or giving an extra round in a draft pick being exchanged. Punch Imlach was apparently a master of calling in chits like this.

Anyone else remember the time the Bills traded Steve Freeman for "past considerations"?

I hate slew-foots. In Marchand's case, I will make an exception.

Necro thread alert! On this team, this discussion is relevant. If you had your druthers, what would you do when Tuch comes back?

Nice user name. Welcome to the board.

Welcome back. It is at the point where we are seeing lacrosse scores with this team.

Just looking up the numbers on Holtby. It looks like Dallas has to free up more than his salary to take on Bishop. What would be reasonable addition to ask from Dallas as part of a salary exchange and what should we send in return? So if they need to lose about $4.5M in salary and Holtby makes $2M, how do you make it work for them with the Salary and us as a team? Frankly, they are in a pickle.

The way this works is you put a defence-first but skilled player between them. Jochen Hecht with Danny Briere and J.P. DuMont. Tim Connolly between Ales Kotalik and Maxim Afinogenov. In an extreme case, you put Gil Perreault with Wayne Gretzky and Guy LaFleur.

I think Schoeny was 23. Very young, but HNIC announcers marvelled at his leadership. Gare took over at 24. I personally think the players should vote for Captain.

Probably someone subconsciously picking up on David Tennant's era of Doctor Who. It's one thing if you are out there saving the universe and need to run through mud in a leisure suit; it's another to wear it in any official capacity.

That was a classy thing to do. It wasn't necessary, but it was gracious. We need more of that in today's culture.

"So you die, Captain, and we all move up in rank. No one with question the assassination of a Captain who has disobeyed prime orders of The Empire." --- Ensign Pavel Chekov in the alternate universe, Star Trek -- "Mirror, Mirror".

Welcome back to the board.

Kyle Okposo, Zemgus Girgensons, and Alex Tuch give me the vibe of "natural leader" -- people whom others in the dressing room will follow. I felt Eichel and Reinhart had some of it, but their process was sabotaged in Buffalo. I point to Pominville telling Eichel, "you're the new captain, you lead the drills." This was very disturbing -- if even I knew this, why didn't Eichel? How did he fail to learn this lesson from Gionta, Gorges, Moulson, and O'Reilly? They all clearly knew and did this part -- you could see it in the warm-ups that they were trying to lead by example.

If, as @Flashsabre says, Anderson is out long term, who is out there? If we include what @thewookie1 said, then Matt Murray is not an option. Devan Dubnyk was Hutton quality last year. Boston is apparently regretting the Ullmark signing, so there is that. Dallas has to make a move at some point. Other options?

For me, that salary, even at 50%, is way too high.

I just looked this up. His father died. His father was encouraging for him to be a goaltender. He apparently is still suffering from some depression. He has had concussions and sometimes avoids aggressive plays, which lowers his effectiveness. He has had several surgeries.

4 am at the FIDE World Championship in Dubai, why?

If @thewookie1is correct, Bales doesn't like him either. If so, then Murray is out.. The strange thing about the Boston game is that the Sabres deflated after the 1st goal against rather than the on truly weak goal, the 2nd. So the problem with Dell is, in part, the confidence of the skaters in front of him rather than just his intrinsic flaws. This seems to be in a feedback loop.

For that price, I would rather target Dallas unless the sweetener makes it irresistible.

Our jam might be less than theirs. They really can't keep going with 3 or 4 goaltenders. We don't need to get a goaltender, much as you and I would like to. Dallas really can't wait indefinitely on moving Holtby -- and he is their most expendable goaltender, has a high cap hit, does not have a NMC, and is, frankly, the least of their goaltenders. Khudobin and Bishop have NMC and Oettinger is outplaying both of them.

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=62478 Those are Aaron Dell quality numbers.

This is excellent. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.