Pimlach

just watched the Avs - Peg highlights. Well executed white out, but they wore road team colors. Mitts with a dirty goal. I honestly cannot see our team not being embarrassed in a game like this one. These games are at a level our boys have not seen yet, even our veteran players.

So you’re the reason @Taro Tis gone ?

Chicoutimi?

I wonder if he talked to Adams and decided to not be interviewed. I am ready to move on from #28.

I sure hope not. Bring in a McDermott kind of Coach/Leader. I know McD is not a perfect coach, and I don't need a litany of responses on his game day errors, but he did fix a bad culture and a bad perception throughout the league. That is not an easy task as we are PAINFULLY aware.

Clearly the group lacks maturity and does not get the right leadership. We can only hope a few of them actually know better and will take over. On the fans booing and calling for DG to be fired - they should have been told to simmer down and do better. Fans pay the bills. Coaches get fired. Life is not fair either. On DG's firing - the only help Adams should have provided was for to tell them to take responsibility for their part in the firing, otherwise say little or nothing. The stuff about harder practices and needing to be pushed all sounds like whinny excuses, even if they are true. I blame Adams for their robotic and scripted comments.

Not to single out Samuelsson but his quote, like many of the the others, is a big part of Adams talking points. Why didn't Adams step in? He is learning his job on the fly too. Practice harder? That is on the coaches first and foremost, but this is why you need those guys that never want to leave the ice after practice. Need a few that call out the one that are not getting it. Until the right leadership emerges within the players, the coach has to do more to instill leadership.

I can tell you some of his top players are very young and they cried in the locker room interviews when he was fired. They knew they let him down but the reality is they lost a lot of really good players (and leadership) from the Cup team and they need to rebuild. Young guys like Thomas and Kyrou are very good, but they cannot carry the team like the veterans did without some help. Which is why I am concerned about Adams' rebuild from within using his prospects almost exclusively. They could get in, but will not have a playoff team makeup to go very far in the playoffs. When that finally happens Adams will have to do what Yzerman is trying to do right now, mix your home grown talent with the right vets. Yzerman is now one point closer than we were last year, but still not there.

Yes. Terry needs to change AND get out of the way. Maybe the change is coming now? He agreed to fire DG and eat the contract extension. Now he has to allow Adams to increase his cap position and break away from the EEE policies. They need fans in the seats that root for the home team.

Really? The Devils were a playoff team and set a team record for points two season ago. They just need a goalie The Blues have a winning tradition and sell out every game. Ottawa and Buffalo are about the same. Buffalo has the Pegula factor which is not good.

Pretty much every coach gets fired. Berube wins a cup, eventually they can’t sign everyone, they make moves but the team weakens. Coach gets fired to wake up the players. Happens all the time.

Frank Christie and Rip Simoniak would disagree. Medical people knowing the players is a good thing. Could you imaging replacing Ted Darling and RJ because they fired Punch or Scotty Bowman?

That is why I asked about Kucherov vs Robinson as shooters. There is a case to not consider shooting ability and call it an expected goal for all. Then you compare xgf and actual goals to find who gets chances but does not finish and work on that. You can get this information other ways, but plotting it on a map of the ice surface give the coaches and players hard data to work with. Way back in the 70’s, I did shot charts for our school basketball team. I marked who shot and from where on pages with the court layout on it, I circled the ones that went in. The coach used the data and kept the sheets in a big binder. Of course, was at the mercy of the charters for accuracy. No PCs and spreadsheets to compile the data, no statistical analysis tools at that time, but he figured out what he wanted from it. He had students tracking and charting assists and rebounds too. He was a fantastic history teacher and our basketball coach. Great guy. He recruited the charters from his classes. This conversation takes me back to a good place.

Yea. Mitts was a sure thing solid player. Now we need to replace him.

Leaves 4th line contributing in a klunker.

I have posted this fifty times. Are we gonna pay this guy? Why and how much? I don’t get the trade. I don’t think he brings what we really need.

Awesome. They build a data base and assign a weighting to shot position, adding in the other factors like screens is really cool. Over time and with enough data, this should give reasonable results.

Leaves are getting blown out in Beantown tonight.

I saw Wahlberg in the rookie camp last year. Benson was the best player there, but Wahlberg was highly noticeable. Great to see him in the AHL now. I like this prospect a lot.

I think I know it. Can you hum a few bars?

Indeed. I expected that you would know answers to these questions.

Most were saying they need harder practices and to be pushed harder and held accountable. A few said they were in part responsible for his firing. A very few said they need to be better. There is no Captain on this roster and we should go with three A’s until someone emerges.

No doubt the players were repeating what Adams told them, which is exactly what Adams told us in the presser.

I wont be critical the fancy stats, they are another tool, but I don't fully understand how they get the data for them. Who decides "expected" goals for example? Lets say UPL faces 35 shots and lets in 2 goals playing the entire 60 minutes. For the game the GAA = 2.00, and the SV % = 33/35*100 = 94.3%. That is easy enough. Lets say he made 3 amazing saves in that game that someone thinks should have been goals. Who decides that for determination of "goals saved above expected"? Because they are saying he gave up 2 but should have given up 5 and in some way they are looking for a way to account for that. Right? OR, lets say he let in an easy goal that deflected off his glove on a routine catch? How do they determine and account for that? I understand basics of statistics and probabilities, so when I see the data I can usually think through the meaning, I just don't know who comes up with the data for these stats and how. Is there a set of criteria that is applied to all situations in a uniform manner. Does the league do this? or the teams? or independent services? Expected Goals - I pass the puck to Kucherov in the slot with the goalie pinned deep in the crease. There is tons of net. He shoots cleanly with no defender on him. Is that an expected goal? Is it still an expected goal if that player is Eric Robinson? I assume it is. If Kuchrov dribbles it into the goalies pads is that a goal below expected for him? Is it a save above expected for the goalie? What are the best fancy stats to tell us effectiveness of a player by position? I am probably not alone in wondering about some of this.