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Hmm. Not the way I interpreted what you wrote, or how you wrote it but ok. Lets move on and get back to hockey. Lets see what Kevyn can do next.

Yes. That is the common theme.

So maybe, since he cannot play all of these prospects (unless we want a team with an average age of 23 for the next decade), he should adjust to what the market does bring?

You understand my frustration. If we were the ONE Team that traded its first rounder on draft day I am ok with that. The notion that we have to look at what happened, after it happened, and then rationalize it for Adams is not something I am going to do or accept. The 14OA chip is gone. The player we took is promising as a two way center someday. Ok, that is about normal for this regime. The trade down to 14 had me thinking he had a something lined up. He got good value for the trade down too, I give him credit for that.

As you can see my frustration is high and then I got spun up with unnecessary sarcasm. @shrader's post just rubbed me the wrong way. Listen, I don't care what other teams didn't do so as to justify Adams inabilities. You cannot look at one year and then declare, no one trades draft picks prior to the draft. Can he for once be better than below average and add a player to this team to improve it? That pick was a nice chip that could have helped bring in a good player, which in turn could get something good started this off season. Draft picks can get traded all the time, any time that trades are allowed. Then to suggest we wait until the deadline, well that is probably too late as we tend to be sellers. The move from 11 to 14 had me thinking he had a deal set up. That is my current disappointment. Let's add them to just this years list working backwards: The fake coaching search, that is another disappointment. The fact that he knew this team, and the coach, were not ready prior at the start of last season and did nothing - that is another disappointment. His past failed trades when he declares "other teams love my prospects" and "teams ask more from me than they eventually took" - that is another disappointment. I get it. There is a entire off season to make some moves. Lets see what he does.

It’s what Adams publicly says, and then the lack of follow up, and then the excuses he gives the media.

I’m tired of the bull$hit excuses. Your sarcasm is not appreciated either. You want to believe Adams excuses, you can go ahead. I don’t need your rationalization of what happened after the fact. I can see what happened. I don’t care how many teams traded their pick or didn’t. I see it as Adams being unable to be a GM once again. Adams job is to make this team better. He has NHL players, prospects, and draft picks at his disposal. He failed to use 14OA to do that. I don’t care if he makes the trade before the draft, at the draft, during the draft. He missed his chance to trade the pick. Did he trade down from 11 because he really needed 2 seconds, or was his intention to move the pick? It’s not the other GMs, it is him. A deal could have been worked out in advance of the draft that didn’t involve the dam pick then. It’s not a Buffalo thing until Adams makes it one. He is the one publicly discussing the “players that want to be here” bull$hit, which only fuels the fire of how bad things are. Defending Adams performance is not a hill you want to die on.

Who are you talking about?

Just more excuses. If he knew this then why not make the moves before draft day. Other GMs do not take him seriously. Other GMs are probably sick of trying to send NHL Players to Buffalo.

Sounds like a guy who can’t get a deal done.

Did he mention why he didn’t trade the pick?

Hoping he someday plays with some Barkov in his game, being a Finn. Never know. I really wanted a trade and a new 2C in the house.

Hmmm. Even wishful thinking doesn't work.

Thanks. Oh well, we could use help on the wing too. I don't expect that trade to happen anyway.

I was pointing to the fact that teams are making moves, filling holes, etc. Next time I'll clear my posts with you in advance, ok?

Yes. Kevyn will trade #14AO for a top 6 forward, possibly packaged for a 2C.

You're right. I messed up.

He is all of those things, but he is 34 and makes $11M/yr with term left.

Two guys that I would like. A vet 2C/3C that scores 25 goals and 60 points, and a solid checker that scores 15'ish goals as a 3/4 line contributor. Anyone know the ask?

Canucks would be acting like real team if they bring in Marino for Zadorov. I wish the Sabres could do these things. Simple things are hard for them. For some reason the culture issues feel more real right now. We need a few really positive moves to improve the roster.

Too damm old to get that kind of money. IT would be so Buffalo to pay that though.

@xzy89c1, Can you consider using the forum for its purpose, which is discussion and debate. I am growing tired of seeing your thumbs down and eyeroll responses. Use them if you must but what exactly do you dislike about the comments above? Just wondering what you stand for and agree with, if anything.

If it doesn’t then we still might get the guy we wanted along at 14, there are several players bunched to together anyway, and we have the extra 2nd which also has trade value. I can complain about Adams with the best of them, and so far he gets a poor grade from me, but this trade was actually ok. He did get some value. Now, if could just improve the NHL roster.

Yes but how much money do you want to spend on defensemen?