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I suspect a lot of owners are fine with break even on operations. The are making their big money on the increased value of the asset over time, ie Golisano style. Owning a franchise checks the diversification box too. Rich get richer which helps to drive up the value. And no doubt if I was rich with billions I would definitely buy the Sabres, live w/ b/e, and meddle just for fun.

And if Stall is showing his age. I feel like on the whole the fanbase's expectations are too high for him. I mean they took Johansson straight up. J is a nice player but was borderline top 6. Seems to me that means Staal is borderline top 6 now as well, but brings us leadership. J brings them upside and its a win/win re culture change objectives.

Guy's shot is on par with Ovechkin's and he seems to be pretty smart about finding space for it. I think he has big value, like a proven #1 goalie (that's not overpaid) or top 4 d, plus a high pick or two. Don't want to see it though.

It is frustrating but if NHL is your #1 it's such a great value. Love getting the homer feeds from the west coast teams. Youngsters ain't gonna relate, but for me it's a little bit like listening to the AM radio at night pre-internet, escaping into some foreign land.

I thought reddit closed that group and started clamping down middle of last season? In any case, same, but different source for links. Also subscribe to center ice for non sabres and use their excellent xbox app to consume.

I would think so yes. National TV $s & eyeballs has to be the primary piece of it, in attendance fans distant second.

Was there originally a picture or illustration of the jersey on this page? Not seeing it.

Samson "i'm more of a composed guy". Murray "it's the emotional package you bring will be the difference between very good and great." GMTM nailed it. I don't' see emotion on the ice w/ Reinhart, and yup thus far he's a good not great NHL player. Hope he stays, but if not, adios.

That could be cool, but logistics and costs savings don't seem obvious. Like, works for Buf / Roc but what about Utica and Vancouver?

Tough one. If not limited to skaters - RJ. If limited to skaters it's Lindy Ruff but I never saw him play, instead his coaching during the playoff runs. The passion and desire to win and attitude just awesome.

Dedicated to his craft. Much respect.

Indeed https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/video-shows-zamboni-catching-on-fire-at-hockey-rink/ Livebarn video is solid. And meme potential for years to come.

I'm good with it. When we win the cup and Zemgus skates it will be max feels.. He's been through the ***** with us fans. Also dude doesn't mail it in. Hardest working team yadda yadda.

Sounds like RK speak.

Chloe! Outstanding.

I fussed. Mostly I don't care, but the "because Buffalo" crowd will put it on the table and it's annoying. I agree @Thorny they are much different in significance, but both were massive failures here and I put that on the player, not the GMs/owners. Pair it with the Eichel thread/rumors and yeah what fun it is to be a Sabres fan.

Kakko, one of the goalies, and the #1 pick. But boy what a hole that would leave. How about Reinhart for one of the goalies? I like your thought process @dudacek Bob not trolling for clicks like your local blogger. I don't see it happening though.

And just for the record for the "ex sabres are suddenly good" crowd, Bogosian healthy scratch.

NBCSN is trash. Like, someone thought about this story line for 2nd intermission, and made it a bullet point for the graphic. Then the talker read it at end of 2nd period. No one remembers that TBL won in epic 5 OT game? How is this possible? "Columbus and Vegas both go up 2-0".

Aho wow! Rangers are just about done. I enjoy that because Drury works there.

I was gonna say Bogo, he looked like by far the weakest link on TB yesterday. And paired w/ Hedman I think. Also Tyler Myers getting criticized in Vancouver, maybe healthy scratch. Not all roses. Overall it's great hockey is back and loving the all-day March madness action. These athletes are incredible, love watching them play.

Plenty of options here given Tim Connolly, Clarke MacAurthur, Nathan Paetsch, Francois Methot and Stephen Gionta are coaching in Rochester for the Jr. Amerks. But looks Mendola is actually it - https://www.lecomharborcenter.com/academy-of-hockey/staff

That entire exchange was weird. I heard the question as specific to sports but he answered it from the Oil side. So, I heard it as only the oil side has no debt. I assume he paid cash for Bills and Sabres. @darksabre Agreed but for big stuff like capital improvements ie new stadium. Or re: oil maybe to buy a new drill? Don't know that biz well. But sports wise I can't see any good reason to carry debt except to build stadium or purchase the team. If borrowing to operate day to day es no bueno.

Yes. And it will be interesting to see if Ottawa, Detroit, etc follow suit in the coming days. If all these crappy teams, or maybe all the teams (except Toronto and Rangers?), have this huge hit to revenue March - Dec it's possible the Pegula's just set the bar. Obviously Jbot is a special case of not performing, so not suggesting big cut of GMs, but the supporting staff perhaps. Creates some interesting dynamics - should big $ players pitch in to help bridge the gap (Eichel give back $1M per year?)? Owners? Or pecking order is what it is, off you go assistants. Apply same to MLB, NBA, NCAA? Really all pro sports dependent on butts in seats. Interesting times.

Napkin math is 2020 they are losing about 50% of their home games (march/april/oct/nov) which I assume makes up well more than half the revenue. If 20 home games lost at 17K butts * $80(?) per (avg ticket and beer) = ~$1.4M Add in whatever you want for merch sales maybe $100k per game? So let's ballpark $30 million in lost revenue for 2020. Relative to estimate of total loss I can see it. Salary cap is $80M, add in Amerks, total payroll for ops is $90M? 41 home games * $1.4M = $57.4M. Not sure what TV brings, advertising etc but let's say $5M? Spitball here but aligns w/ "we don't make money unless playoffs". And if Pegulas are on year 7 or whatever of subsidy and total subsidy of close $400M or something, f yeah I can feel it. Not suggesting they are victims, just trying to understand the EJECT button.