Scottysabres

I will, and thank you to Thorny and yourself and all the rest for the subject matter. So, with that said, I'm interested to see if my thoughts on Kane kind of make sense, what do people think?

Ah, I see. You interpreted my comment on signing him or not as fact. Well, all I can say is this is a hockey forum, one I've enjoyed reading the banter back and forth on for a couple years before I felt like partaking in. If I speak unclearly, just ask for clarity. I'm just a Sabres fan remember, no reason to stomp on my balls because I express an opinion with some confidence. For my part, I've started using imo in my posts so I hope that helps.

Whoa Lets put the breaks on here. Please point to where I have said its fact. Posting an opinion with strong data to go from isn't stating fact. Core players are those you can build around in my definition. While Kane has excelled at multi-facets of his game, imo without Jack's playing ability his production in offensive numbers decrease. Making him, imo, I complimentary piece. The 10.14 aav between Bogo and Moulsons contracts hinder the numbers set forth by Liger. Especially any wiggle room to add components off season or in season next year if Bots finds the team in a position to entertain such.

This is where you and I view things differently. A majority of Kane's points this last year are overwhelmingly due to Jack's playing ability. Take Jack away from the equation and Kane's numbers drop, significantly.And you can see this in Girgs and Reinharts production, also driven by Jack's play, and this is not disputable imo as the numbers bare this out. Jack is our best player. With that said, Kane is a very good player in multiple roles in his own right. And unless Bots can move a healthy portion of dead weight contracts, my doubts on a Kane re-signing are all but cemented. What seals the deal for me as of now is organizational needs, and currently, there are a great deal of them.

Not really. You need look no further than Pittsburgs last 9 years to see where Botts pedigree cap / talent analysis comes from. Kane is not a core player. Or he'd already be re-signed. Okposo isn't going anywhere, neither is Jack a 10 mil or ROR's 7.5. Its up in the air what happens with Moulson and Bogo's 5 mil aav. The writing is on the walls here

Yea, I'm well aware. Hence why I stated, if he doesn't take it we move him and move on. In other words, there is 0% chance Kane is a Sabres by the deadline.

I keep Kane if he's willing to take 4 yrs @ 5.5 If not, move him.

There is absolutely 0 chance he gets re-signed here. In case you haven't noticed the roster is stuck with bloated contracts from sub-par or beyond marginalized players. And while that is no fault of Kane's, its a current reality none the less. Furthermore, you are stating draft picks in return, not I.

Girgs showed speed. Kane scoring (pump that trade value UP UP UP) Glad for the win.

Wow! Way to go.

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Touche' good sir

MacGyver would know.........a paper clip (top pairing d man), a rubbet band (top 2 line LW'er) and a AAA battery with a spring attached (3rd line high energy power forward for Sam's wing).

Pelicano's stuffed pork chops in the oven: ✔ Mashed potatoes and home grown broccoli & cheese waiting to go: ✔ Bruschetta's and tortilla chips ready: ✔ 30 pack of Canadians sitting on ice: ✔ Said Canadians commenced consuming precisely at 6pm: ✔ Hockey night in Buffalo with the Neil Pert drum solo super-imposed in my brain: ✔ Sabres Game Night Rabid Hockey Mentality in play: ✔ I think I'm ready......... GO SABRES!!!!!!!!

Man did Ottawa give up a ton. Nashville got Turris and already has inked him to 6x6. They made out like bandits. But Colorado......yikes....that is one hell of a haul for Duchene.

It's all a part of "the master plan". And I'm being serious. Think about it for a moment. Adding Scandella, taking on Pommers for 2 years while dumping Ennis and Foligno. We got a d man. Signing Antipin to 2, not 1 year. Trying a cheap reclamation project in Beaulieu. Signing Josefsson and Pouillet to one year, gap fillers deals. It should be clear we are letting Gorges, Johnson and Nolan walk at seasons end. I expect to see a Kane trade before or at the deadline, hence keeping him with Jack to pump those stats. I also expect to see Lehner moved and Ullmark brought up before or by the deadline. Moulson and Pommers get to ride out their deals while the roster is injected with a boat load of youth either on their ELC deals next season or their 1st post ELC contracts. Bridge or show me deals most likely. Prepare for another high caliber draft pick, 1 thru 6 if this keeps going. I also expect a trade or 2 for a d and maybe a netminder before next season. Like I said, all a part of "the master plan". So what do you expect Housely to say?

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I'm going to need to increase my bourbon intake on game nights because of this conversation :P

Its time! I expect to see ANGER in my coach from a performance like this. I want these players held to a much much much much much higher accountability standard than what we've seen. Start the trades.

What a terrible performance.

Losers make excuses, winners go home and the prom queen. :P

Noticed that. Puck possession with speed, back to the 05 to 07 seasons has the nhl moved?

Well that was just beautiful puck movement by Dallas. Well deserved goal.

Well, ROR is present and accounted for.

I hope they get blown out. Force bots hand to DO SOMETHING!!!!