PerreaultForever

Well if you look at my whole post I did say that.

This is a very true thing. Part of that issue when you think of Hudson Fasching types is we keep changing GMs, changing plans, and turning over the bottom end of the roster. We are all (or mostly all) happy with how they've rebuilt the bottom 6 this year but the type of players we were lacking in this area have all been on the roster before. For example Ruff wanted a guy who could chuck 'em, and we had one of the best in DesLauriers. We want a tough D man we had McNabb, McCabe even, We broke Risto of course as well. We had Zadorov. We've had a lot of the guys we needed later. Fasching isn't a great player, but he does seem to fill a hole on their roster doesn't he. My point is that we as a team have never valued these bottom 6 guys and never developed them to fill those roles.

Sure, using your assets for other assets is always good so having assets is good but as a counter to this I have to present you with Boston (hiss, boo, I know I know) . Always ranked dead last or near dead last in prospect pool terms and yet last year they graduated 3 guys to the roster from that pool onto an already strong team. In my opinion it's not how many you have, it's developing the main ones you do have and filling your holes with them. Sabres roster wasn't very deep last year and isn't all that deep this year so if you aren't graduating at least a few of these prospects now, then you're failing.

I would say the key to success is in how many players you graduate each year. It shouldn't be hard for a team that sucks to land a decent first rounder. You can screw that up and not get the best guy and sometimes even crap out entirely when you go after some guys brother or something but in general high first rounders make the NHL in some capacity. Now how many guys you can develop and graduate in the later rounds really determines your long term fate. idk, I think there are numerous ways to build a team, but so far we haven't found a way for all these first rounders to come together.

Tricky. It all depends on Dahlin's relationship to Ruff. If there is ANY element of Dahlin is in charge and not Ruff then it is an example of the inmates running the asylum in Buffalo. This may not be the case though. It might just be a bunch of guys working out together and likely hanging out after. I still think the captain should be Tuch though.

But they got to the final and that wasn't Saros, wasn't it Pekka Rinne? Anyway, do we have a Saros?

We don't have Crosby.

The prospect pool rankings are amusing conversation but they ultimately mean nothing. Maybe the stat I'd be interested in exists but I've never seen it. That would be ranking teams by how many of their prospects graduate into full time NHL players.

Problem with possession stats is if you are a perimeter team your stats look better than your record. Without dirty net front presence possession means very little. I don't know what Ruff plans to do in terms of a team system but I am hoping we become a forecheck team more than a possession team. Creating errors on the other team is, in my opinion, far more conducive to winning than possession, especially if it is primarily perimeter and neutral zone possession. Florida won the cup. The league is going to keep shifting to greasy and mean and Sabres need to get with the program.

It's too early to assess what they have but I will say this, if Ruff cannot turn this group around and make them into winners then I would in fact rather start over with a clean slate, Celebrini and Askarov and build from there. I'm not convinced what we have is anything, until it is in fact something. 13 years. Show me.

lol, I would rather support a team that makes the playoffs rather than collects shiny new toys. They are just starting their rebuild. Much like when we drafted Eichel. Now if Askarov turns out to be a nutcase like Lehner, well then you might have an argument.

Excellent move by San Jose. Total rebuild and they now have their cornerstones. A young goalie who could potentially develop into a comparable with the current Russian stud goalies along with the big #1 overall star to be. Foundational pieces in place with time to grow and develop. Excellent move for them.

Well it's obviously true that all drafts are not equal, but keep in mind that on paper they look one way and years down the road redrafts rarely look like original drafts. Half empty half full, by saying Helenius is better than Rosen you're also saying Rosen is worse than Helenius and that's not good drafting in terms of Rosen even if it's good drafting on Helenius. Rosen has had development time. He should be better and closer than he is. While not yet a "bust" I'd say he's trending in that direction. I think you're way off comparing Helenius to Barkov, but we shall see what he brings to NHL ice soon enough. I don't put much stock in junior or Swedish league stats.

Did we get better than Florida, Boston, Toronto or Tampa? 8th seed wildcard MAYBE if one of NYI and NJ crap out, Washington falls back and nobody else rises up.

The thing that bugs me about that list is Helenius is listed above Kulich Rosen and Östlund. All first rounders but if development is actually happening they should all be closer than the new guy. But they're not and so that brings our drafting back into question.

Tuch and Dahlin arm wrestling to see who gets to be captain. Bryson is the witness and ref.

If Chevy's so smart you'd think by now he'd have learned to draft western Canadian kids right off the start.

All depends on what system Ruff runs and how well they adapt. We are not likely to get much scoring from the bottom 6. At least not the way it appears they are being assembled, so scoring will have to come from the top 2 lines and the PP. PP HAS to be better for any success at all.

I'm not going to dig too deep on this because I don't really care but is it possible that he or his agent hid or didn't properly disclose details on his injury when the trade was made? Could that be construed as a breach of contract?

No, it was all a complicated ploy to get rid of Ceci 🙂 Whatever the details I loved it. Squeeze a cap ceiling team any chance you get. I wish we saw offer sheets every year.

This is great to hear. I'm not a St. Louis fan or anything but this was a perfectly designed predatory offer sheet scenario and shows a GM willing to play hardball cut throat and not be part of some silent boys club agreement scene. Obviously he's made an enemy in Edmonton but really helped his team and I hope this signals the start of other GMs getting this aggressive. The homework they did with those exact contract numbers to keep the compensation where it was was also genius. GM of the year so far. As an aside on Laine, it would have been insane if this team traded for Laine after buying out Skinner.

I have a bunch of jerseys and haven't worn most of them much. They do last I have to say that. I have had money to burn and probably have a dozen different ones (even a Letterkenny Shamrocks and a Happy Gilmore just for laughs). I have an Orr jersey I should probably be buried in. The hockey guy is fine (even though he's a terrible hockey player) but he just rehashes stuff that's yesterday's news and he is far too diplomatic to make him overly entertaining. I hope he can continue but if not I'm not overly concerned. He's usually a day behind @Brawndo when it comes to Sabres news.

I agree with you but after a list of inexperienced (in terms of NHL head coaching) failures a veteran coach seems like the right move. I just hope the respect and reverence Tuch holds for him filters through the whole team and the young guys don't just think "who is this old guy and why is he yelling at me?"

he must be making enough money considering how many jerseys he's got hanging there. When I first saw him I assumed that was inside a sports store but apparently not. Apparently all his.

I can't agree with that. Hockey's a pretty simple game and the tried and true still wins championships regardless of numerous rule changes and league tweaks. There really is nothing new and one of the Sabres problems has imo been not developing in a traditional way.