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9 days? That's crazy. Doctors haven't figured it out? Stuff with this team just gets weirder and weirder.

It's always been about the roster construction. The lack of veteran leaders, the unbalanced team dynamic. They are always trying to fill holes they create themselves. Jarmo is the first NHL experienced hire they have made in the Pegula era. Ruff was the first experienced coach but he's a has been. Rookie GMs, rookie coaches, crazy hires of motivational speakers, cobbled together after thought goaltending. The franchise vision is ridiculous and as such the culture never builds. It's just a little up and back to the bottom (insert this year's excuses) and then do it all over again. Players get worse here. Rookies hit walls. Sometimes they leave and other teams/cultures fix them. Sometimes not. It's NOT the players, it's the Sabres organization.

It's a huge mess. It's obvious. I suppose there will be some eternal optimists who think we are "close" or they will buy into the injury excuse that will be Adams' mantra but the reality is he is a complete failure. Has been for years. The organization failed not firing him last year. Pegula won't step away and hand it over to someone. It's all a disaster. Lindy is already starting to look 10 years older. It's killing him.

I think they lie.

or they have really bad doctors.

No, Zucker was sick but originally Ruff said Kulich had some sort of ear thing that made him dizzy.

That's not going to happen. A deadline deal will involve pick(s) or prospects. maybe a roster player they don't want for salary reasons but you don't really want that guy either long term. Maybe you have to take him (like Bruins had to take Mittelstadt) for their cap but what you get will be futures and not good roster players. Ideally you can hope for a really good prospect like the Bruins got in Minten on the Carlo trade. If I remember correctly they got Minten, a first and a 4th. Different type of player obviously but I think you can look for something similar for Tuch. Hard to get more unless they trade and sign which seems unlikely.That's a good haul though. Sabres could use a guy like Minten.

All the best to Kulich but I find myself wondering how this went from an ear thing to a blood clot.

I suppose that's possible but there might be other dead weight floating around as a contender or three looks to dump somebody to pick up somebody else. Hard to say. Thing is I doubt Adams will look to undo a move he made. Trade and trade again and trade a traded for guy really isn't his style. he believes too much in himself. Any fault is on players who don't want to be there, no move clauses, palm trees and so forth. This year, as I said way back, it'll be all blamed on injuries.

Fair enough. My view would still be coach has to look at who's going and who is ready and time it to the draw in the offensive zone. Ultimately it's on him and if they fail continually he needs to be fired. Whoever he is.

I'm all for that but who is going to trade for a broken player? San Jose already did all their cap dump moves to get to the floor. You going to eat salary? I think we are stuck with him. This will be worse than Connolly.

Byram's an offense first guy. Power's an offense guy. Dahlin's an offense guy. He's good enough to be okay at D but he should be considered offense first. Kesselring I'm not sure and I'm not sure he's sure either. It's too many offense first guys. Not enough defenders. They are just fortunate Samuelsson has gotten back to what we hoped he'd be and Timmons has been solid. If they weren't, this team might be winless.

Well sure. I've wanted Adams fired for a while. I was very disappointed he wasn't fired last year. Most of us were. So yes, fire Adams. Absolutely. I'm just saying if it's a cosmetic change nothing will really change and we will just be fooled into optimism for another 2 or 3 years. Terry has to change his view and involvement or this will never really change. That's the core of the argument.

It wouldn't be the first (or last) time a former starting goalie has been sent down. So it's still simple to me and it's correct by the other goalies and how you treat them. You call every GM and see if they are interested. If there's any sort of trade available you make it. If there isn't, you send him down and if another GM claims him you file that GM name under snake in your contact list and you move on. Levi still gets most of the starts down there because he is your top prospect and you tell him that. You tell him you see the future as him and Ellis. That's it, it's over. One thing I no longer care about is how good players do away from Buffalo. It'll happen and it'll happen a lot. WGAF. The only thing that matters here is Sabres wins and losses and that should be the mantra. If you aren't winning it's just not good enough and you need to make changes.

okay but they shouldn't "lose the urgency" that's sort of the issue isn't it.

Said as much when we first got him but whatever. If they are thinking this rebuild has failed and there will be a new GM, coach, etc etc. and there's a partial tear down coming, this is the perfect time to trade Power. He hasn't been in the league long enough for other GMs to think he's a bust and most will think "it's Buffalo" and they will believe they can turn him into something better (which maybe they can but who knows). That window of optimism on his ceiling will close soon.

I think you missed my meaning in my comment. The implication would be that the "change" would be cosmetic and really, it would all still be Terry and Terry's decisions and visions of how things should be. So very little if anything would change.

Wow. You win the nerd award for that one. I don't actually care about firing Adams unless I know who is hired and if there's a change in direction or not. Let's just say Terry fires Adams but all he does is make Jarmo GM, move Ruff to Senior Advisor and name Appert head coach, well then the Titanic is likely still heading straight for the iceberg.

No, I'm just saying it's a desperation play no matter when you pull the goalie and their odds of getting it done in 1 minute are slim to none so why not 2 or 3 minutes? It's a hail Mary and likely won't matter anyway, but not pulling the goalie isn't going to work either so whatever. They always lack urgency and they lose puck battles. That's all 60 minutes as a whole. For years. 6 on 5 requires that urgency, physicality, and being desperate on every single puck battle. You don't get to be pretty with 6 on 5.

You have to realize your argument is based on a premise that since they are pathetic at 6 on 5 it's not worth trying early. I mean, that's the Sabres in a nutshell.

Yikes, when did the Bills turn into the Sabres?

Well the flaw in your theory is you see the goalie being out for all 3 minutes. The idea is you score and put him back in for the last 2 minutes. If he's out for all 3 you likely aren't getting it done anyway. Coach has to go for the match up and O zone face off. But you need to win that face off and you need to send that extra man to the front of the net to create havoc. Honestly I don't think it really matters. Appert seems to be designing all these things and like the Pp it's useless.

Well I'd trade him for anything/nothing just to get rid of the contract but I don't think it's that easy. Name me the teams who would want to add that contract for an AHL level goalie? I see nobody goalie desperate so you'd need to add to get them to take the contract. Just send him to Rochester and if somebody claims him all the better.

If you're going to think this way they need to do what the Bruins did last year and mid season deconstruct. Then drop like a stone as low as they can go. You trade those vets for almost ready prospects like Bruins did for Minten (who is really good - hate the Leafs, but they drafted well). To do that, as I said in the game thread, now is the time to fire Adams. Let the new guy get on with it this year so as not to waste next year.

Well you have to like the comeback attempt but you can see at the end they look dead inside again. They know it and we know it, you aren't going anywhere losing all these games, even if they are close. I'd really really really like to see Adams fired now. Make Jarmo GM if that's the plan but do it now. Let the new guy start planning for the deadline, potential tear downs and future draft. If they do the usual and hire in the off season they'll lose more years in the adjustment period. Come on Terry. You can shake up whole neighborhoods with that frakking. Shake up this hockey team. It depends. You have to time it out with the face off and which top guys are rested and ready to go. The thinking isn't we will be attacking for 3 minutes. It's just now's a good time for the line match ups we want. or at least it should be.