PerreaultForever

6 of 7 on the road is a big hope. So I guess if they do that maybe you can think they will make the playoffs. I will still be interested to see how they perform after the Olympics. We all know the second half can get tougher and more serious. I think this year the Olympics will be the differentiating point and some teams will get very serious after them and pull away. Who that will be remains to be seen.

But to do that they have to win and improve from their current win percentage. The season is already 1/4 over and do you have faith that they will be substantially better than they have been? Because they will have to be.

You can argue about who you are "building around" and you place your "core" parameters around less or more people and all of it is just circular and meaningless. If you trade for a guy who is signed until 2030 you clearly have him in your plans that is irrefutable. If I was GM I'd build my team quite differently. You probably would too and you'd probably do it differently than me and that's why teams are different, because GM's differ the same way. Me, for example, I start with the goalie.

I don't think it "shows us" anything but it was a career highlight goal for him. I doubt you ever see him do it again. It was a nice play though for sure.

that implies an extension.

That's not what you were arguing though. You took issue with my comment of building around him. If he's top 6, you are building around him. There's no need to argue just for the sake of arguing.

Reading stuff on twitter about Tuch's wife being from BC. That could be a thing. Byram is another name they apparently like. Quinn for Power as the primaries? That would interest me depending on details. My dream, Quinn Hughes, Petersson and Garland for Quinn, Norris, Power. Tuch (and whatever picks/prospects make that happen). I'd like to keep Tuch, but I don't want to pay him 8 years at 11.5 as rumored and I don't want him gone for nothing. Quinn, Power and Norris are all players who disappoint me regularly in one way or another so any of them can go and I'd welcome it. If it's me I'm bumping Krebs out of the line up. Norris is 2C, McLeod goes back to 3C and Kozak stays on the grind line. When Kulich comes back something else will have to give.

Except Norris doesn't have a broken bone, he has a bum shoulder and now (possibly) a groin injury (or something similar since it's mid body off a face off). One good hit into the boards and that shoulder is gone.

Excuse me, but it's not an "exotic notion". He has an 8 million cap hit until 2030. You trade for that you obviously have him pegged in to be part of your top 6 core.

I'm not taking a sub par offer but I don't have to win the trade either. If the on ice team can get better than it's good for me regardless of what the on paper trade looks like. I don't think they need Norris and I don't think they need 3 goalies so I'm looking at a move there. I also have to have a firm Tuch plan. make a final offer and see what he says. Then act accordingly as you cannot let him walk for nothing like Ullmark. It's scientific and medical. Injured areas are never the same as they were.

I don't disagree with most of that. There were a few early games that had me thinking, hmmm, are they getting it this year? But I didn't want to get too excited and then they started losing in OT etc. and things started to look the same. I still don't see enough fight on the boards and winning puck battles to take them seriously but it does look more like an actual hockey team. It would be nice if they could win some face offs too.

I got really bandwagonesque when we had that win streak with Eichel-Skinner-Reinhart tearing it up. That was the last time. Last few years I've settled into a prove it and show me kind of view. Just don't trust this team to show up every night. It's been calming since so far it's been constant.

True, but each injury makes your body more prone to more injury. We will see what happens I guess. As for the chatter, not surprised. One, I think there are always vultures looking to pick at the carcass. Two, I think it likely some think they can get the better of Adams. Three, there's Tuch, too many goalies, too many bodies period. I suspect there's a few teams looking at this or that and seeing what the asks would be.

It can, but that win streak has to happen. In this compressed schedule, relative to other teams, they are actually healthier now than some so there is a chance to move up but they have to show up every single night to have a chance at making that happen. Cautious optimism is the best i can do.

We are going to have to agree to disagree here. First look at how much they are paying him. next look at how little he plays. It just doesn't make sense to build around him. I mean look at it this way, if by chance they get good enough to compete for the playoffs or even in the playoffs, do you want their success to rest on this guy who is one hit away from out for 6 months? I wouldn't. But let's leave it at that. If Adams is still GM he obviously won't trade him because he will want to validate his own decisions.