JoeSchmoe

Don't confuse the fact that he plays on the PK with him actually being good. He is a terrible hockey player who's been single digit assists for the last 4 year.

100%. It might be my #2... I'd only hesitate to say so based on the crowds.

We go to Bristol Mountain for the extra vertical. If we're going to go to Hunt Hollow, we might as well just go to Ellicottville which is quite a bit closer and usually has better snow.

Everytime I'm across the border I bring back some Saranac. My brother and I both agree our favourite beer of all time was had at the Indian Lake Restaurant after boating all day. It was a draft Switchback Ale from Vermont. Perfect temp, perfect head, and just the right amount of malt and hops for the occasion. I've had it out of the bottle and it's not the same.

My trips into Canadaigua are generally in the winter when snowboarding at Bristol Mountain. The view of the blue water from 21 is what got me. That and the view of the hills at the south end looking from the north. We've taken the kids to the beach in the summer and had dinner at a restaurant on a patio on the southwest side of the lake. Both were fun. Maybe if we had a boat we'd hate the congestion more. Seneca I thought was flat and boring from the Geneva side. I've never been to Cayuga or Keuka but would like to see both. Still I prefer the ADKs to the FLs... Though both are very nice in their own rights. As part of our Ontario discussion at work... Anyone who likes Adirondack forest style lakes would like the lakes of Ontario starting about 90min North of Toronto when the Canadian Shield starts. They are similar to Adirondack lakes. No mountains though... hills maybe. However, they have a lot more granite and cliffs along the shores.

Full respect to the Fulton Chain, but there are far more remote places in the ADK than the Fulton Chain... Let alone the whole Northeast. Aside from Eighth Lake, they're all pretty busy.

I haven't been to Cayuga, but have wanted to check out Ithaca for a while now. I didn't know about the cliffs and coves. Pretty cool!

As I mentioned in another thread, some colleagues were discussing the best lake in Ontario. There's so many to choose from, and it was kind of an interesting discussion. Since most posters are either from NYS, or have a connection there and given the state is home to many of the best lakes in the US... I thought I'd bring up the topic here. Of course you have the two Great Lakes... I'd call it a toss up between the two. Lots of nice Finger Lakes. I haven't seen them all, but of those I have seen, I like Canandaigua the best (slight edge over Skaneateles). I haven't spent much time downstate or in the Catskills so I can't comment there. Chautauqua Lake is probably a favourite of many in WNY. I've never been. My favourites are all in the Adirondacks though. Lake George, Upper Saranac, Long Lake and Blue Mountain Lake are amongst my favourites, but if I had to pick one, I think I'm taking Lake Placid with Whiteface Mountain in the backdrop. Hopefully we can get some good discussion going as we head into the summer lake season without hockey. 🍺

Good on all the posters here trying to find something to talk about in the offseason. Still a other 4 months or so to go of no Sabres, and we need better things to talk about. 🫣 That said... I'm starting a new OT thread based on a similar topic some colleagues had today about lakes here in Ontario. See you over there... EDIT- link to thread

You never could question his effort. He was balls out all the time. But for all his effort, he had zero ability to make plays. He's on four straight seasons at single digit assists. We can do better. Much better.

Shoot! Totally missed that. My mistake. I'll delete the post.

Isn't this a bit of a weak connection? I.E: Forton's sisters husband works with Terry, OR Forton's wife's brother works with Terry. He's kind of a legit local hockey guy, and it looks like he's paid similar dues that a non-nepotism hire would pay. Unless he's Head GM'ing, I'm not going to worry about it.

This is doubtful. See my analysis below. First i compare him to Peterka... and he's significantly behind him points wise in SHL vs AHL. Peterka is a legit 2nd liner. In the 2nd analysis I compared U20 players in the SHL that had similar productions to him. Of the players that succeeded in the NHL, they are all significantly bigger than Östlund.

As one of RJ's biggest fans, I knew no one could replace him, and I was ready for that. The problem is, as many have said he CANNOT call the game on the radio... THE LISTENER SIMPLY HAS NO IDEA WHATS GOING ON. My kids play travel sports out of town and I'm on the road all winter, so I listen to a lot of Sabres radio. I seem to recall Duff doing a game and thought he was pretty good. Much better than Dunleavy. I actually like Dunleavy as a personality so I think it would be good if him and Duff changed roles.

The biggest surprise if Krebs gets traded will be if he goes as a solo piece. As a solo piece, what else does he get you besides draft picks? I think everyone is in agreement we don't need draft picks. To get an NHL ready contributor back for Krebs, we'll need to package him up with either picks or additional prospects. At that point, it'll be a toss up whether it was Krebs that made the deal, or whatever else we packaged him with.

I agree with all this, including your analysis of my analysis. But based on the limited amount of roster spots for players of his cohort, I'm hoping 1 out of the 31 GMs in the league saw what GA saw at the WJ's and will give us an NHL ready player for him. Especially given I like our odds on Kulich and Savoie more.

Ok... I've got nothing going on on a Friday night. Here goes. I'm going back year by year in Elite Prospects to find SHL players that are U20 with points in the range of 0.6ppg. I have to manually filter out the U18s and U19s that are also listed, since their way further back on their improvement curves. 19-20: Filip Hallender 0.52ppg U20 SHL. 18-19: Emil Bemstrom 0.74ppg U20 SHL. 18-19: Samuel Fagemo 0.60ppg U20 SHL. 16-17: Joel Eriksen Ek 0.62ppg U20 SHL. 15-16: Oskar Lindblom 0.52ppg U20 SHL. 12-13: William Karlsson 0.58ppg U20 SHL. 11-12: Johan Larsson 0.73ppg U20 SHL. 08-09: Lars Eller 0.60ppg U20 SHL. There's not a lot of NHL'ers that played SHL as U20s. Of the ones that made it on my list above (Ek, Karlsson, Eller) they're all bigger than Östlund.

I base what I think about prospects by comparing them to other recent players. 2 years after his draft, Östlund had 23 points in 38 games in the SHL. Peterka, who looks to be a bonafide 2nd liner, had 68 points in 70 games. That's a pretty big spread. Does the quality of the SHL vs AHL bridge the 0.61 vs 0.97 ppg gap? Maybe someone with more time on their hands can evaluate where an undersized 0.61ppg SHL forward typically ends up career wise. Guaranteed, there are outliers who have succeeded, but where does the typical player of Ostlunds ilk end up?

Realistically, Östlund and Rosen will never have much impact in the NHL. I know this, I'd expect NHL GM's to know them as well. Savoie and Kulich are more likely to break into the league on a more meaningful basis, and may be able to get you back an NHL ready player on a cap-stressed team. I'd be shopping them hard.

If it was coaching, this is a pet peeve of mine. You'll score more goals 1 on 1 or 2 on 2 than you will if you establish the zone and let everyone back 5 on 5. If you have a trailer to make it 2 on 1 or 3 on 2 by all means hold up, but that's rarely the case, so you end up getting low% 5 on 5 play instead of the chaos and playmaking you can get with smaller matchups.

22-23 he was blowing by people all the time. I think it was the best part of his game... He had speed and power. This year he'd always pull up and wait for help. I think this is the biggest reason for his regression. Not sure if it was coaching, confidence, injury, or what.

I feel like he's played really well every time we've faced him on Seattle.

Not looking for specific names or anything, but what does Joki and a prospect (preferably Östlund or Rosen) get us up front? Can we get a legit good middle 6 forward? Could adding a pick get us a legit good 3C?

What's Bryson going to cost? He was visibly better this season and has the advanced stats to prove it. I like him in the 6/7 slot for next season. Arguably RJ is good for this, but I think he might benefit with more ROC time.