Derrico

This is all true. But you don't live in leaf country my friend.

I donno man, with or without karlsson Tampa is a tough beat either way. I think catching Boston is the first option and then Toronto. Best case may eventually get the first wildcard and cross over.

Nope. Sabres arnt winning the cup over the next couple seasons anyway so Tampa would be one of my favourite bets to prevent the leafs from doing it. It'll also hamstring Tampa enough with the cap that they will have to lose some other key players anyway.

BMI might be one of the worst metrics out there to determine ideal weight.

I really would like this discussion; just not today. Maybe within the next week or two though. For the record, if I do engage it will not be to try and throw ROR under the bus. I mean not to come across as thinking he was a bum now that he's been traded. I just also think his minutes will be replaceable with 'only' a bit of a drop off.

Know what else is awesome? Working on something for 3 hours and then losing power for that split second....you know the one where you think damn I can't remember the last time I saved this file? Then finding out that although there is an auto-recovery you're still missing enough info that you want to stab a co-worker in the eye? Ok, I don't want to derail this thread anymore. I'll wait for Thursday and the appropriate thread...... I also think you and Flagg are over playing ROR to a certain extent. He's been a pretty good player the three years he's been here. Nothing more, nothing less.

12 hours of looking at excel numbers. I'm cranky today.....

Today I learned Ryan O'Reilly was the greatest hockey player of all time despite making the playoffs in 2 of his 9 NHL seasons. Edit - with his team never winning a single playoff round.

Dahlin back in Buffalo again?? I thought he wouldn't be back until training camp. I guess if it's to sign your first NHL contract to make $925,000 base plus bonus it's worth the flight back across the pond.

This is where fancy stats and eye test seem to be inconsistent. Beaulieu looked like dog #### most of the year in my view but this analysis says he should be second pairing and everyone's corsi basically improves with him. I don't understand but there's some disconnect there. I do really like that analysis tho.

I guess but he was a first round pick. Wilson we acquired for basically nothing, he counts almost nothing against the cap and I wouldn't think fans have that high of expectations for him.

Meh, Wilson is making a million bucks. The whipping boys are usually left for guy's with much higher salary.

Casey Mittelstadt from 1-4-5 to 26-30-56

Lol. That is the equivalent.

You CANNOT walk away as a 3 time champ! Gotta defend that title!

Yep, exactly this.

Ya that jumped out at me too. Maybe it's wishful thinking but I liked the analogy (I think it was duda) I read the other day that compared JBott to playing moneyball. One of JBott's biggest strengths coming in was suppose to be cap management. Immediately after the ROR trade I was down on the team coming into this year but maybe some of these low cost and/or veteran guys will pan out alright and we will be better than once thought.

It sure looked like JBotts was moving ROR come hell or high water. Interesting quote from Chris Taylor in the Athletic today. So many little tidbits dropped that for whatever reason the organization stunk off the ice over the past couple of years as well. Look for the Sabres to continue the Bills blueprint of putting a ton more weight in a guys character/attitude and not just looking at the skill set.

Athletic has Part 2 to this series out now.

I hope everyone is enjoying the summer so far but we are only 20 days from the start of Bills training camp. Before you know it the football season will be back upon us...... I am pleased to confirm we will be running the 5th Annual Sabrespace Fantasy Football League. Once again, a shout out to our previous winners: 14' - TrueBlueGED 15' - JuJuFish 16' - JuJuFish 17' - JuJuFish This year there is a new wrinkle. As you may have read, due to high demand, we are opening a second 'relegation' league. If you were in the original league last year 'aka league 1, aka winners league', you are automatically back in if you want. At this point, could you just confirm that you are back in again for next year. I have heard from North Buffalo, Norcal and Taro. Still waiting on: TrueBlue, Wyldnwoody, Ink, Thorny, Wildcard, Hank, JuJuFish and Pi. The premise right now is the bottom two teams in this league will be banished to the 'relegation league' for next season and the winner and runner-up down there will replace them in the Winner's side. As always, trash talking is very welcomed and let's try and end JuJuFish dynasty run!! Eleven - Did you still want to start off running the 'relegation' league. We can PM details on league rules etc. if you want.

Wasn't most of it digital harassment? Also, it's a large state lol.

Sounds good. Will do.

Oh I don't mind the weirdos hahahahha. Was thinking it could also be a spot where if someone wanted to join they could drop there name in to be added to the list (although maybe I'm being optimistic thinking there would 24 + a wait list.....). I'm good with it either way, whatever you guys want.

It really is worth it. Very good content.

This.