Derrico

Yes exactly this. I never even imagined this was on the table. I was just happy this was his last season.

Man this is such a great point. I"m sure it was Pegs telling Botts to make the move. I'm not even going to string Terry up for that. Can't blame him to be honest.

Don't you start today. There's way too much potential for a big trade I'm focusing on. This next big move will really sway my thoughts on JBotts. Next 48 hours are going to be critical.

So a guy with the username E4 (isn't that an Eklund term) throws something out from a post on another message board and everyone is freaking out thinking it's true? Just catching up on what I missed.

He does. All I've heard is Zegras probably gets taken by Detroit. I'm all in for Dach, Zegras or Cousins. One will be there because if there's not there's someone you are sprinting to the stage to take.

I'm just asking and not criticizing. Are you concerned at all that this only happened one year? To do that in a rookie year is very amazing. However, the proposal involves a ton to give up and if he had the forward version of Tyler Myers rookie season and subsequent regression and we just gave up 7OA and Mitts this rebuild will be set back atleast another two years. Love Cirelli on the Generals, heck he scored the GWG in the Memorial Cup finals. Always a special place in my heart. But watching him that year he was very good but far from their best player.

Ya the GM came out saying he expects Marleau to be a leaf come October. I'd be very surprised if this is true. I think he's just trying increase the ask as everyone and their grandmother realizes it's strictly a cap dump.

#VilleLeino

It’s one year left. No buyout, I think you just live with him for one more season. Just hope RK doesn’t play him like the second coming of Bergeron like previous coach.

Wheels are falling off in Pitt as that core ages. Great for you bringing us three cups. It’s always balancing present with future. They are about two or three years away from the core really showing it’s age. You could obviously get a ton for them. Not saying give them away obviously lol. The return could significantly fast forward a mind rebuild. No sense waiting three years and moving vets for pocket change ala Iginla if you don’t think the vets can do it. I don’t think Pitt has the horses and the sweep to isles was just the tip of the iceberg. Won’t happen but if I’m Pitt I’m atleast listening.

Oh man this. Are we looking at vesey as a top 6 option?? He has maxed out at 35 friggen points over the last three full seasons. Maybe I’ll take him for bottom 6 but if botts is getting him for second line I will start to worry.

I’m not as intuned this year as I normally am but here is my late to the party top 12: Tier 1 1. Hughes 2. Kakko Tier 2 3. Turcotte 4. Byram Tier 3 5. Cousins 6. Dach 7. Zegras Ter 4 8. Boldy 9. Caufield 10. Newhook 11. Krebs 12. Podkolzin

Less than 24 hours to go...... Brayton Wilson mocks Caufield to Sabres with Cousins still on the board. I guess I can’t see a scenario loving Caufield as the pick since I have 8 guys rated ahead of him. Either Dach, Cousins or Zegras will be there as an option. IMO it should be whichever of those three are left (no chance Hughes or Kakko are there and very unlikely Turcotte or Byram). Plus I would take Boldy ahead of him.

Wow were they getting 15 percent of cap year 4. My bad if true. I'll have to look into this too but time is short right now.

Double check but it's true. Guys got the big deals Year 8 under last CBA. It's year 4 now. Crosby entered the league in 2005 and the $8.7 mil deal was signed in 2012 (year 8).

McDavid broke the mold and we're not going back unless the new CBA changes this.

This is right but I think those days are ending. The 'cheap' RFA years are becoming more and more expensive. Crosby, Malkin, Kane, Towes all had much more favorable deals early in their career. Today, starting year 4 the young guns are making huge money.

This is more than fair. Botts has to amend that mistake and get someone like Stastny in for a couple of years. His mistake wasn't necessarily trading ROR. It was the terrible return and lack of thought in having Plan B if Mitts wasn't ready Day 1. I think this year you will see all of these holes plugged.

I know but there were other factors that went into ROR decision I think.

Your right *cough* Skinner *cough*

It's not about losing the impact player. It's about having the ability to surround the impact player.

Yes

If I’m Pitt I’m trading both this offseason but that’s discussion for another day.

If Risto could be moved for a nice second line centre and then we trade Subban for a reasonable buy low then that is a huge offseason for Botts. Some risk with him being 30 but he's still a hell of a player.

That's what concerns me with a Vancouver deal.