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?????? Do you know who had "nukes" at that time? The point is I'm sick of this idea we're the heroes and saviors of the world. Our draft dodging leader thinks we can survive without allies who played important roles in our history and is disrespectful of them. Now we seem to have brought it into a sports forum. So be it. I'm voicing my response.

Please, Please enough with this nationalistic stuff. Frankly, if it wasn't for the Russians (who I believe lost more lives) we wouldn't have won the war. We should realize the sun doesn't rise and set on us. Before you get bent out of shape I served and I'm not putting down anyone but my opinion and emotions aren't based on what my relatives may have done although I respect them. Just seems there's a lot of flag wavers who haven't served in fact a few are ones who dodged the draft because of family connections. Okay, that's my rant.

Was a reply deleted? See it quoted but not the op. Was this censured?

But wouldn't this rationale also suggest Risto' s performance would be effected by his defensive partners? Rather than his being expected to make his partner better? Seems that argument could be argued both ways.

Wouldn't add other than maybe 4-5 pick . Laine seems to have his own question marks although very talented.

For who? Excluding ntc that would not come here.

Option seems to be few that would be an improvement over what we already have.

Why? Boyle on the cheap? Or do you have something else that's more than fantasy trade talk.

Brian Boyle would be a nice addition for the right term.

Sort of like most hockey players.

Botterill probably still looking for another move. As is I still think overall he's improved the roster and hopefully further development of some of our young guys will be significant improvement. Goaltending is not being discussed but could be the make or break of how much improved we'll be record wise.

I really don't want to trade Reinhart. Seems to go against what we're trying to build here. I don't want to trade Risto either but willing to for the right deal. At this point it would have to add measurably to our scoring.

He's not.

Yeah, but that's not what grumpy old / young men on here want to hear. They're arguing about graphs and other stuff.

I'm not sure of that. In fact it seems to me who you're playing with/against can skew these charts and what they mean really. How many times do we hear complaints about our players going somewhere else and playing better. I'm not against analytics but some totally live by them.

Because they may need to trade that better version to get offensive help?

Doesn't sound "bad" to me.

Vesey 17g, 18a. Donskoi 14g, 23a. Regular season two points difference. Plus/minus favors Donskoi. That stat can be effected by factors not necessarily players fault. Overall I say take your pick between the two.

Okay. I'm in on that. They're free agents. I'm just not enthusiastic about trading Risto for a stop gap #2 center.

Before we trade Risto away I'd rather they see if they could do that.

Much the same way with Peca. Remember fans saying "who's Michael Peca?"

So far I'm , with the exception of the ROR trade, impressed with what Botterill has done. The additions of Skinner, Montour, Miller and Vesey for what it cost us seem good moves. If he can get us another center then I think we've made good progress.

Agree. I hope Botterill takes his time trades don't need to be made now.

I've felt right along any significant moves will be by trade route.

Agree it sometimes does. Usually for teams competing for the cup now. More times than not a lot of bad contracts with not great impact.