Thorny

Great post We might be able to trust this Strider fellow

Ya don’t say Watching this thread go to “well we actually got by far the clear best player” in a matter of pages was a little disappointing. Come on dudes

This is the dangerous thinking MAYBE he represents an upgrade on the current cozens. We needed top 6 help when we thought we had 68 point cozens! We’d have *never* traded that Cozens for Norris. We should be hoping this swap represents a redo on Cozens and back to square one, if lucky i cannot stress this enough: Adams hasn’t *done* anything yet He’ll have a long career in the nhl haha

No, he doesn’t. Because the injury concerns aren’t just a variable we list and then dismiss away in the name of bias. It’s a real thing. He hasn’t played more than 66 games in a season, EVER. He WILL be injured, until proven otherwise - that would be the only reasonable way to look at it The deals are are means to WINNING. Winning is the context: not raw talent They always do shite like this. Trade for guys and say they are their new best player

lol credit for not making a colossally bad deal? Haha Rare lose lose trade

I don’t think we are very good

Exactly

The GM who built this is already safe for next year Let that sink in

Good precedent to let set in for the new guy

How does Norris look

These trade requests are prob more common that one thinks

I edited my post, I still don’t really agree. I’d say equalling and surpassing 91 was actually a much more statistically accurate expectation. Those models are always behind: again the projection for the following year would be reflective of several years previous not just 22/23

He never could get over the fact we constantly spelt his name wrong, to the point it started affecting his play, clearly

No chance we met expectations last year. It was a resounding fail! 84 points and 22nd place after missing the playoffs by 1 is a step back and a failure Even go look at the pre season projections thread The resounding message LAST year was “it’s time” THIS season was supposed to be about “he gets fired if he doesn’t do it” There’s no accountability - - - I see now you mean relative to whatever analytical predictions were made but knowing those are an almagamation of the results of several years I don’t find them that reasonable a barometer of expectation

I was so annoyed when everyone was like “oh a 2 year term to tie him with Adams, they’ve got 2 more years to fix it” Probably so mad because deep down knew it was true Always at work, always on company time

It’s definitely a few things, I’m sure he’s not doing a particularly great job. But often a leader is only as good as those you are asking them to lead: it does so happen that all of the issues you mentioned fit nicely on a Venn diagram with the problems associated with “youth”. And, at the end of the day, Kevyn Adams picked the coach for his players so it still trickles back up to the GM I’m also heavily biased because I like Lindy, yet contrastingly hate Kevyn Adams dumb stupid face

It seems more less lateral, with a hope it breaks in your favour. Even best case scenario you’d think maybe he amounts to OLD cozens - and that was a roster in need at said time. People saying we took a step forward today are I think losing sight of how many steps we took back that we need to make up first

Dunder Mifflin

Really? I haven’t been following the cap all that closely so we’ve had all this space, and now it’s all gone just by keeping what we have? What a waste

This part was inane: “I can be better at saying: You know what, we are doing this today.” what?

😔 “I’m gonna fix it”

Still, it’s a necessary type of move, Cozens/Norris. There’s no way imo there’s a perceptible gap between the two to the tune of me/one having any of the confidence necessary to claim one better than the other definitively - we’ll just have to see. But change for the sake of change make a lot of sense, here, if you are getting comparable ability back. What we had wasn’t working, try a new fit. Attempt something else that could lead to winning. The Greenway and Zucker signings are just ok to me, maybe leaning slightly negative. As said I think I’d be leaning towards change re: anyone im not set on. Those can bump overall score, from me, for this deadline from Adams to a respectable B-.

People weren’t really expecting the version of Cozens we got this season right? But we were still saying we needed a top 6 addition. I don’t think this trade counts in any way as “addressing” the hole in that, if Norris is good, he’s getting back to the player we were hoping Dylan was, right? A good 2C. But then we still need help in the top 6. We’d be just back to square 1 with Norris, a redo on Cozens if you will I’d say the hope is this represents a re-stabilized top 6, in need of improvement, up from a collapsing unit

If Thompson is staying at W, Norris could be our 1C actually Though that’s mostly semantics I guess cause Thompson is still on that line. But in a manner of speaking our top 2 Cs could be Kulich and Norris