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Speaking of, this was a heck of a call, minus Girgensons obviously @GASabresIUFANI take your points, was definitely just mostly remembering my reaction at the time and probably dudaceks lol.

No I mean Lehner wasn’t half bad for us and the ROR trade was great. Those 2 deals worked in combination with eachother because yes I’d have preferred to give up a 2nd for Lehner but also would have willingly dealt a 1st for ROR instead of a second (which, IIRC, is what we paid in that trade) Edit - the “we all said” thing was bad wording on my part, I meant/should have said that it was a point raised by many at the time. But you are right the reaction at the time was bad, even worse looking back just now

“Do you think we will win a cup in Buffalo?” ”oh, I definitely don’t think we’ll win a cup in Buffalo.”

lol didn’t matter at all

Lehner trade was fine. At the time we all said we basically dealt a second for him B/c we only had to include a 2nd for ROR. Which remains a great trade they were sort of part and parcel like Mittelstadt and whatever trade we keep saying is coming for the second half of it

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Let’s all laugh at Ottawa for ditching the korpisalo contract for a reasonable price and also adding Ullmark in the process mOrE pIcKs

Are the 93 Habs texting the 72 dolphins for support?

It sort of sucks that Ottawa is the team (needing help) and getting it, while the bruins are taking the hit but seem to overcome everything thrown their way. ie this hurts us vs Ottawa, and im not sure how comfortable I am even contemplating finishing ahead of Boston regardless of what they do probably ptsd but it is what it is. I’ve been natured.

Seems a reasonable return? If he’s not negotiating a contract? As if the league lacking trades in general for entertainment value makes a trade *5 mins* before game 7 of the cup final lmao Should really help Ottawa tho tbh

We shouldn’t take him in that scenario. That sounds like “I’ll go to Buffalo when every other teams deems me not valuable and they have to do it for the press”

A very moderate offseason this would be. Not terrible, not exciting

If only we had his numbers on an average team to see..oh wait we have his numbers on a putrid sabres team and they were really good

Greatest run of all time in golf?

Isn’t that what makes the sentence on-point? You understand this was satire on my part, right? Lol

Sorry, I’m not reading all that. I’m happy for you though! or sorry that happened

I agree with that. i took issue merely with your idea the perception of the team would by and large be “up and coming”. I don’t think so. Some will no doubt tout that but I really think our persona right now, until otherwise, is “that team that never makes the playoffs”

“We like the versatility of our centre core.” Adams said. ”We believe in Peyton and what he brings to the table. To the room, the community. He epitomizes the work ethic of what it means to be a Buffalo Sabre.” Adams went on to say he sees even bigger things in Krebs’ future. “We didn't want to stifle his opportunity to develop into a 200 foot centre for our hockey club. We feel the addition of Nic (Dowd, acquired last week from the Capitals for a 2nd round draft pick, and a 5th in 2026) to our centre unit allows flexibility up and down the lineup. We are comfortable relying on both Peyton and Nic to help contribute offensively while also doing the little things right in the defensive end. We’re excited to get to work in training camp.” ”Any time you can add a player, really, a human being with the versatility of Nic Dowd, particularly without having to sacrifice any of your future, your prospect pipeline, you have to feel good about it.” Adams added that he spoke with teams about deals that included some of his more valued prospects, and was comfortable moving on from one or more to facilitate a trade, but in the end felt it was unnecessary because Dowd represented the best fit available.

Ya I basically agree I was specifically referring to the fall in the post of mine you quoted

You expect more action league wide compared to normal in the fall?

Also, I make an effort to be a person online, be honest, not hide behind a faceless avatar, so I take your point on stuff like that. Here’s my Twitter account What do you think about Dowd

I never said stop doubling down, did I? I just pointed out that you took a super high degree of difficulty argument by taking the position Mitts had done “jack squat” If you take the L there and shift to “didn’t do enough”, you’d have a better fighting chance ill tko your argument rather that leave it staring at the ceiling Being unable to shift your stance is message board poison

Absurd take imo It’s not cynicism in this case, not close. It’s merely an objective reading of the actual results. What you are doing - sometimes people need to have a black light taken to this bs- is spin. It’s intelligent spin, but my gosh is it ever spin. Your argument doesn’t make sense because by the logic of the argument you could wilfully ice the youngest team in the league every year, by choice, and never have any expectations. Dunno about you but by and large I don’t think people are dim enough to fall for it, nor would the perception of the team be positive *Being a young team isn’t an excuse*. Going into year 4 and 5 of a rebuild with the youngest team in hockey is a tactical error. You don’t get to cut off your nose to spite your face and claim “patience!” The line is the line *regardless of strategy*. Young team, old team, combination of both, big, small, fast, slow: the history books are filled with centuries of data illustrating that no plan needs to take close to this long. I don’t think you understand the key point: being up and coming team after 5 years of “building” isn’t good. That’s an extremely, extremely poor league relative outcome and demonstrates inarguably poor aptitude: the exact opposite of the management team you’d want running the show even if we did eventually get in the playoffs in year 9 I apologize for the bare language but your argument is very bogus. This is primarily because it fails by the principles of its own detail: it doesn’t haven an internal logical consistency. How could you possibly claim a 90 point finish is proof of being up and coming when it would *literally* have us in the exact same spot as 2 years ago? We’ll have gone nowhere in those 2 years, proving that 90 with a young team isn’t proof of anything at all. Hockey watchers can see and understand this. Your point IS a hot take because it’s wrong - the perception of the sabres won’t be positive. This is the tact the rest of the non-prospect washed hockey world take, “oh really? Wake me up when you are in the playoffs.” No one cares about a team missing 5 straight years being framed as “up and coming”. They’ve all heard it before. WE need to wake up, put our big boy pants on, and measure results the way the rest of the league does