Thorner

He seemed so reluctant to finally push in on it being the team’s time to win, I wouldn’t be surprised if these deals are falling through because he takes such a hard line on value all the time and is reluctant to be flexible

The Sabres aren’t in a *position* to turn their noses up at new paint We need every point we can get This is basically me

And like I said, block away Wouldn’t want to give up father’s stuff. Father gets mad - - - I actually think Necas is pretty good and played t6 on a good team so if we couldn’t make that work on even a PLAYOFF team I think the issue lies more with the constructors isn’t everyone saying Skinner is a net negative now? Does Necas provide negative value?

For the record I think the feature is bad. But i have to play by the rules of the board. Like I said I’ve given out as many likes as anyone, but the feature only works of it’s not unbalanced. You have to use the range of them imo if at all

That’s not what the connotation of Flash’s post implied but whatever. I’m moving on at this point, block as necessary

My guy you could have responded to my post with anything. A discussion, constructive criticism…instead you quoted it to say one sentence neither here nor there re: my post about the way I slotted my lines You disagree he could be the best available or disagree he’d be better than running it back?

You realize I’ve given out more likes than every other poster, right? Why are you piling on? three red Xs. So scary

This is honestly exceptionally troubling only because we’ve been theorizing in exact words that a lot of what Adams does or pushes out there seems to be in the vein of setting up the “we tried” punchline

I have all the experience with grit I need having to trudge through your posting content in the last year.

He may also very well he the best option. Adding Necas is certainly better than running it back. I mean look at this. Here we go….

And? I like how everyone suggests the concept of balanced lines in theory but the moment you create a lineup on the internet not slotted precisely by perceived rank it’s an issue Thanks for the input tho

I suppose the question is whether Benson and Johnson had actual viable competition to surpass. Olofsson was a reflection of inaction in replacing Quinn and how likely was Eric Johnson to provide a meaningful block? You don’t have to term it “blocking” but the spirit of the term is thst you keep the runway clear for internal improvement. That IS what the 2023 offseason was

People are too hung on line designations which are often arbitrary. The “3C” may get a ton of minutes if he’s on the pp or pk, or they are the matchups line, or an equal balance among the 3 or 4. $7.5 isn’t too much for a guy who slots into 3C on a lineup card on the internet if his ability is akin to having the value of $7.5 million Having 2nd liners on the 3rd line is sort of exactly what you are after we’ve just been divorced from the concept for so long. Of course everyone wants a BARGAIN but you only run into issues of your guys are overpaid relative to their value, not lineups slotting. They remain very tradeable assets if necessary. Part of what we said was the benefit to locking up Thompson and cozens to 7 mil deals is that we’d HAVE the cash to utilize elsewhere. That was also part of the point this isn’t an argument specifically for necas btw just the concept

Not at the expense of spiting your face this can be part of the logic that informs the move but it can’t just be addition by subtraction, as you’ve already pointed out I believe

He’s averaged over 60 points the last 2 seasons though combined. I bet you the average output for 11 overall is less. Never mind the massive premium there should be on the immediacy of the asset. Necas being good now is much more valuable than hypothetical equal production in 5 years - - - These moves will all work in combination with eachother, right? Who was that guy from Washington we were apparently targeting with ridiculous D heavy usage? Dowd? So they stick him on line 3 and run him heavy on D again allowing the 2nd line with Benson - Cozens - Necas to run wild on O. It brings me back to preferring a better 4C instead of Krebs so we can lean of line 4 in a defensive way too but I suppose many have confidence in his defensive abilities

I bet you he’d be the top 6 W add Peterka - Thompson - Tuch Benson - Cozens - Necas Greenway - X - Quinn X - Krebs - X Already thinking about flipping him lol. let’s make the playoffs

Sure. I’ll mail the pick to the airport myself

I mean it’s definitely running it back if we did nothing else of note. But we will - - - I see a lot of poo-pooing of Necas online but I like him I think. Those rumours to me are intriguing

The Don Cherry thing was your tip off

Adams fetish for Canadian players? The Sabres for a very long time were very American player heavy in and around the gaustad years finally the sabres smartened up and realized drafting more good Canadian boys was the secret to success

He hasn’t addressed any need to the extent losing Mittelstadt has so far added to another. I agree with you it’s not about which player ends up better, though. But it IS about whether or not our TEAM improves and I don’t think there’s much to demonstrate, yet, that we are improved by having Byram over Casey. Stats indicate we were worse off for it this most recent year. If Byram played exactly as he has so far in Buffalo going forward, it wouldn’t be enough. We are counting on some of the previous flashes dudacek pointed out materializing in a meaningful way again and also, as you pointed out, the corresponding C move from KA

Everyone except Maurice apparently lol

Players walking up the the plate aren’t big swell of emotion moments and you can barely hear it on tv Not comparable

Economic

No, not yet. Mittelstadt has been good for Colorado and Byram not so for buffalo. He still has to prove it. It’s not just automatically a good trade because the theory is sound Byram was *bad* last year. His metrics were the worst on the team and bad in Colorado. That’s not drowning in numbers in fact that suggestion is seriously laughable. You don’t just ignore the stats because you don’t like them and call people who put stock in them “drowning” the *idea* of the swap makes sense and there’s lots of runway for it to pan out: we will see this season. But we can’t call it a good trade yet if results are at all a consideration