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I rest my case

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It’s been proven it CAN work, if you pick the right players. That doesn’t make you an apologist. I don’t think anyone is saying it absolutely cannot be done. The Carolina team you point out is the same one Brawndo did: the exception that proves the rule. It doesn’t serve the argument because the most notable aspect of that team making it was that it was an anomaly in doing so. We know that team existed: it exists in the framework of the 2/160 that made the playoffs under the cap terms they did, in the last 10 years. The issue is the unlikelihood, not they they’ve chosen an impossible plan Now, change the equation to this team AT SOME POINT developing into one of the examples? Makes it more likely. But that ETA is very likely synced up with the cap returning to form’s ETA the length of time we are supposed to be waiting around has been, well it’s been the key issue since Adams took over. The more things change the more they stay the same. We are still saying the same thing: when? to me, it’s never really been about “if”. Of course they will EVENTUALLY make the playoffs again. The contention is the timeline is putrid relative to league standards

I know, it’s horrible for you. But I’m actually trying to gain a bit of weight. No excuses, but there you have it. It’s only 6 cans each. Well, that, and the fact that ice cold coca-cola from a can is the greatest drink ever created

Ya I mean once there’s no internal cap I’ll be happy to admit there isn’t one. Not that there never was one, mind you (and mind the I told you so’s) but that Pegula has lifted the constraints, definitely. I’d imagine you expect them to be removed next season at the latest?

Should be noted I partook in all of this while paying 5 bucks for this much Thai noodle salad now THAT’S obnoxious

Thread more so makes me feel like I’m drinking Grey Poupon

I understand the need to pretend the contraints are gone but like, if we look at the data, it’s pretty obvious they are not. I can’t really argue against the position of “I understand we always don’t spend, but maybe it’s just a coincidence.” If the data illustrating to a fact that we aren’t spending isn’t enough to prove we aren’t spending, there’s no argument I can make that meets your criteria There is no card I can play beyond pointing out the fact of the matter that we aren’t spending At least, you can probably appreciate: it comes to the same thing, if we aren’t spending it, no matter who made the call - Blame Terry, blame KA, someone made the choice hell, blame me

Good post. Of course Adams is “targeting” playoffs, but it remains “playoffs, while spending less”, and therein lies the rub. To make the playoffs, the priority almost always needs to be “playoffs.” That is assuredly not the case, right now. As you mentioned, his “true” target is probably next year. Do you think Terry will loosen the budget constraints by that time? If so, then I think it would be reasonably stated to say their goal would be “playoffs” next season. As, it would no longer be about “winning, but only while spending less.” Hope they get in this year ahead of schedule then, so I’m around to see it I agree though: it’s unlikely for a team with this payroll to make it this year but it’s not impossible: you point out some good things to hope for I tried I failed. From my point of view the Sabres are evil!

@PromoTheRobotdo you believe the fans are wrong to say the owner has failed us and we should expect better? That we should be grateful to have a team at all? ain’t no way I’ve followed your twitter for years to have you let me down on this one.

I honestly give up You do not think his endless suggestion the fans are “stupid” for thinking better is possible (the context of the tweets) is analogous to saying fans shouldn’t be complaining about things not being better whatever lol that you think cascade’s quotes are closer is definitive proof of your absurd bias towards me. Block me please. Or ban me if you won’t stop responding to my posts with your drivel so tired of being strong armed by a “moderator” who follows me around spouting objectively incorrect nonsense just to disagree with me

I think it was because we had the greatest goalie ever who bailed out so many mistakes merely being a very hard working team (all teams) was enough. We also had the player personnel who played that style: aka ability/talent

Oh yes Yes but did he say the EXACT words? Mmmmmm?

Lmao! Yes. He didn’t say the literal exact words. What are we even doing here man every, single, solitary tweet I posted is imbibed with the fact he thinks the fans are dumb, specifically for expecting better. He literally says it time and time again. “Dumb for expecting better” AKA “be happy with what we have”. Im not LITERALLY using happiness in the sense of “oh he thinks fans should be jumping for joy.” Who would possibly think that? My contention, which I already reiterated to you upon request, is that his stance is “fans are stupid for thinking better is possible. Just shut up.” I’ve proven he thinks that. HE IS TAKING ISSUE WITH FANS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE 14 YEARS WHEN HE SAYS THOSE THINGS. He is literally saying the fans are wrong to be complaining. Po’d. Choose any word you like good god man Are you going to double down again? You are wrong. I can do this all day

More people know Promo’s schtik (great word) is being anti-fan than that the Sabres are on notice Everyone certainly knows THAT

It’s me. It’s because I made the argument or, he can admit he doesn’t read the board he moderates. One of the 2 Should be noted that every tweet I posted was from 2024. I didn’t cherry pick. Not even close. I didn’t dig deep. I typed his username and “fans” into twitter. It goes on like that, for decades. i can post more. I didn’t want to. I don’t want to post more. But if the board isn’t being read I’ll post from external

You are professionally, willfully obtuse with your postings to me. The essence of what I am saying is that his stance is, “fans are dumb and stupid for thinking better is possible.” That’s really all he talks about. How dumb the fans are If you don’t think THIS (and the tweets) qualifies as “fans are stupid for thinking better is possible. Just shut up.” you literally aren’t reading “what could Terry have even done” He is SAYING that literally. That meme I joke about, he actually said it. “What do you want Terry to do exactly?” The implication is it is beyond his control. It’s not even an implication, it’s stated outright If YOU’VE got something, that proves he thinks otherwise, you post it. Burden of proof is on you. Every post he makes I’ve seen has that tone

Lmao. I did ask him. He won’t respond because he knows he can’t. How about these tweets:

This is absolutely his stance I mean, read the material. Read even a portion of it. He never suggests anything to the contrary “this is the best it can be, support it. Fans are wrong and deluded to criticize.”

Do you believe having the head coaching position staffed and not left vacant offsets the fact we will be bottom 10 in spending and those teams are exceptionally unlikely to make the playoffs? Do you believe they feel the 2/160 designator is irrelevant, that they have as good a chance as anyone else even though we are spending less? Or do you believe the goal is to make the playoffs in some other future year?

How much are you willing to pay for a holographic Charizard? I’m putting together some funds… I can discount it as a plus to the extent he can work with him because he agrees with him Part and parcel, say it all the time

I agree with much of what you are saying, but there’s sort of an undeniable truth at play here that demonstrably shows it’s both, re: the bold. There are plenty of teams that spend and don’t win, sure: so that proves you need to be making wise moves and not just moves. That part is true. But the statistics illustrate that there’s a certain point where a lack of spending gets extremely prohibitive to winning. GMs navigating all the normal issues of building a competitive nhl rAHster appear nearly incapable in recent times of assembling said level of quality you speak of if they find themselves with a bottom 10 allotment in league spending. There results are just there, the data is there: only 2 teams in bottom 10 in payroll made the playoffs the last decade. That’s 2/160. That’s 0.01%. Zero point zero one percent of playoff teams in the last decade spent as we are Do playoffs seem like a reasonable goal if you enter into the season under those parameters? I DOUBLE DOG dare anyone to answer that honestly You have to spend a certain amount, and you have to spend it reasonably. Spending a small amount reasonably isn’t enough - it’s not a viable strategy if the goal is playoffs

And “ya, but what about..” isn’t a good argument, either. (Not saying you are making it). Drunk driving isn’t less of a problem because there are also other bad, illegal things people do behind the wheel

People don’t generally understand nor think there’s a reasonable chance they could kill someone else if they walk down the stairs, drunk. This would be because it isn’t, in fact, something that happens when people walk down the stairs drunk. If people are incapable of understanding the fact they are piloting a potentially deadly weapon, to others, while stepping behind the wheel drunk, after routinely being presented evidence to the contrary, that’s assuredly, definitively on them. And they are incredibly stupid people. Do better, your argument is very bad. In all honesty, it’s shocking how bad the argument is