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Remember when Skinner hurt his ankle, miraculously returned, and sucked for a long time before regaining form? Quinn will be back

Realistically, and as mentioned in my post, the central point I was making was re: a roster standpoint. Ie if we want to put ourselves in the GM chair. I don’t have a problem with expecting Benson to be better as fans, your scouting analysis is beyond mine, I’ll defer to you. But as a GM, they can’t be counting on the raw production until we see it

Jack Quinn will be fine

Ya maybe. I’ve not seen you tout a player more than Quinn coming into this year, though - and he’s just not there yet. You were turning down my suggestion that Peterka could be better, outright, remember? I was certainly wrong on Quinn, too: though I still think he may end up our best F one day, I thought he’d excel this year

The key with Benson will be not expecting too much, too soon from a roster standpoint. Quinn will be really good: but probably not this year. Don’t make that mistake again

This is true. But by that metric: as of right now *no one* is going to qualify for 8th

A playoff spot is still right there for the taking

The thing with Adams is, and whoever the GM is in general, we can still measure moves he does make, that aren’t limited by the budget constraints (we don’t imagine budget is an issue on the 4th line, right? What we are spending there is comparable to other teams?) relatively versus other teams. Frankly, his offseason work was mostly terrible, even the stuff he did do: These guys aren’t good. Did Terry Pegula make Adams sign Beck Malenstyn? Did Terry know who Beck Malenstyn even was? Did you? I’m not trying to make a funny point: I sure didn’t know who he was - - - It’s not like Adams is incapable of making good moves. Zucker seems good. Me and you are simply saying he’s amendable to the results, over a LONG period of time, which is what we were granting. Honestly, the fact you said before he needed more time, and are now, after some time, shifting your stance, proves the inherent logic of your stance and your approach to the analysis That even, “the general manager who built the team is amendable to the results” seems to be a bridge too far sometimes, a contentious issue, makes debating or analyzing *anything* we see seem rather pointless

We are looking to buy him out? Contract isn’t looking too good? WHO could have seen this coming. I ask you, who. WHOM

The air is pretty fresh ngl - - - I was always aware of the fact I never made a conscious choice to be a Sabres fan, but was rather born into it. But the drum beat of looming inevitability in the furthest reaches of my mind seemed to suggest, nay, lovingly whisper, in bone-chilling fashion, that the hold goes well beyond that, moulded by time: Fresh air? No. My soul craves the stench of the Stoner.

IMO, what I think we are seeing with Cozens, etc, that leads to some of the “we thought this would be easy!” type comments, is touched on with the bit I bolded in your post above: I don’t think anyone in the organization (aside from the fans, of course) claims the Drought. “Constantly” isn’t much of an issue to be reckoned with for this crew, players up to GM, because they don’t feel amendable to what the franchise subjected the fans to before they got here. Where as, for us, “constantly” is informed by the entire time period Not passing judgment on whether that is right, or wrong, but signing up for a long form rebuild on the edge of missing the playoffs 9 straight years provides solid evidence of it, to me. They didn’t seem to care about or factor in fan apathy: imo, again, to their detriment. For a lot of these players, it’s simply a matter of “not my problem”. The fans feel disenfranchised, I’d imagine the players do, too. Isn’t that why they stopped saluting the fans after games last year? They are, seemingly by choice, not amendable to the suffering of the fan base. They aren’t “constantly” screwing up because this is the first year any sort of expectation was levelled on them, and hell, they just won 3 games, no?

Love you guys so much not even this franchise can keep me away

The idea that we don’t have enough to be going on to evaluate the job performance of Adams thus far is absurd. He wouldn’t have gotten credit had this team made the playoffs? Everyone would have been praising GM Terry Pegula, right? Come on now. I’m not sure when it happened, but some (but not many) have taken the idea that Pegula may be presenting certain handcuffs and run off the rails with it, with the idea that Adams is *literally* a puppet and not making any decisions. Adams is the one presenting the ideas he comes up with to the GM, Terry isn’t literally the GM. All owners have veto power. Almost all owners make their voices heard. It is literally in the job description of *every* GM to navigate this process. We know Adams had the ability to construct a playoff team under these parameters because we missed by one point a few years ago. I used to joke about “what could Kevyn Adams have even done?”. In a very hyperbolic way I was suggesting some seem to post as if Adams literally could not be held accountable for anything. That this position has moved beyond meme, and coalesced into an actual stance is fairly amusing. Oh, I’m back.

I don’t want this to be a big thing (for one: it’s not. That’s why I chose the random thread, I hope anyone who sees value in it stumbles across it, or doesn’t)…but I simply couldn’t bring myself to leave without saying goodbye. I’ve met too many wonderful people here. But, the time has come, at least for now. Though this is my last post, I’ll always value the time I spent here engaging in conversation, even if, as always, YMMV on that. Just wanted to keep it simple: thank you. And most importantly: Go Sabres. Catch you all on the flip side!

So a promotion for Kevyn Adams for a job well done and another first time GM. Status quo pr move. Please no

I’m still in baseball mode so i haven’t watched a TON of hockey yet this year and just caught the highlights from today, but from what I’ve seen, he’s one of our better players. Like he’s quite a good hockey player. What a good argument for trading more prospects for veteran players I mean he’s effectively the 2c

Nice little win. It’s just a small thing but I like the play McLeod made on the last regular goal. He gets the puck to the right areas where good things happen.

Workhorse from Whitehorse

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It’s mostly conversion imo. 14-7 Shots FLA

Dahlin and Quinner on the scoresheet for the first time

I liked how Thompson capitalized at even strength. Doing exactly what you need from a 1C

Comet 260

I’d bet my broomstick he was joking another fun game today