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His pace at 126 is pushing the boundaries of what *humans in the nhl* do\. It’s wonderful but he’s still riding a statistical mechanical bull. But the landing looks incredibly soft..and his hands look mighty strong
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I mean outlier relative to the league at large I think this is more less the “real” him but I’m still waiting to see how far he can push the boundaries of the mvp candidates of the league, if he can.
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off topic Star Wars - now with SPOILERS! (Read at your own risk)
Thorner replied to Robviously's topic in The Aud Club
“Darkness rises, and light to meet it.” Haha, ya I understand TLJ is so divisive that praise of it will be met with immediate, opposite but equal scorn, and scorn will be met with equal but opposite praise. Totally just one of those things. I guess I just do not agree with your comment on tone, lore, or agenda. In fact I disagree strongly within the context of what I love about the Star Wars stories and it’s characters but this is so wildly subjective clearly that I don’t know if it’s worth rehashing in detail. I would answer specific challenges directed my way but couldn’t know where to start in explaining why I think it gives a triumphant, rousing end to Luke’s arc. But I do digress. Your take on that stuff as a fan is of course equally valid I will say I tend to also focus on the films from a filmic background / point of view, I guess cause I didn’t grow up being a fan of the movies (not that you don’t (there’s subjectivity in film analysis, anyways, obviously)). But I think Rian is a brilliant director. The technical aspects of the movie are superb. Cinematography is stunning. The performances are in another *galaxy* relative to the OT. Say, Hamill’s. Regardless of anything you think about the film, there’s no denying Mark’s work is his best, bar none, in the saga. But it’s mostly the story, for me, honestly. Luke, at the beginning of the film, laughing off, with bitterness, the idea he can be a “legend” while staring down the entire first order with a lightsaber...then doing *exactly that*, in the climax... the shot of him winking at c-3po before marching out through the smoke, mist, rousing John Williams musical accompaniment, and light, is *CHILLS INDUCING.* Legend, indeed. Luke, Rian..take your pick. I love the film. -
off topic Star Wars - now with SPOILERS! (Read at your own risk)
Thorner replied to Robviously's topic in The Aud Club
TLJ is the best Star Wars release, period, never mind just Disney sw but, yes have only heard good things about Andor. The tv stuff doesn’t do it as much for me as I’m a film buff through and through but I really should give it a go -
I took the joke and laughed but sort of bypassed addressing that aspect, ya haha
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Pet peeve of mine that ppl always seem to lump “passing ability” under IQ and vision. It’s deserving of its own niche it’s an incredibly important facet of the game Confused emoji I’m not being defensive. I’m talking the time to explain my reasoning in detail because you seemed interested/were following up on something I said. I will always take the time to outline my thought process in effort to help people understand if they want to place stock in my view or throw it in the trash. What I won’t do is fail to take the time to have a good faith discussion with any member of the board who wants to take the time. If that ends up in me posting a lot, so be it - that much is obvious looking at my post count if anything I find too often the dismissals of view points come to quick
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I don’t really care what you do tbh re: is it ok I point out “be careful with the pace game” simply because it’s true - not to win an argument - - - If tage breaks Wayne’s 215 mark while pacing for 190 I’ll still say the pace game is dangerous - the fact of the matter is that generally an exorbitantly high relative pace slows down over the 82 game grind ie we see statistical regression - of course there are frequent exceptions: it’s a macro statistical concept it’s simply harder to maintain outlier paces (on either end) the greater the sample size
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The one thing he does is talk about the Sabres a lot
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Absofreakinglutely. Not expecting this sort of found money with Tage is perfectly understandable. But failing to supplement him and Dahlin, now, this coming offseason, and letting this sort of production from Tage (25) especially slip by knowing full well this could be the best stretch of his career, and potentially the best we’ll see from a Sabres F in decades (just look at the last) and that it’s a player GOOD ENOUGH TO BE THE BEST ON A CUP TEAM, would be a cardinal sin. The time is now, now, and I think KA knows it. From what we are hearing. That we have cheap elc talent coming is exactly the point. This is when we can win big
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Conflation, here - no, I still don’t think Tage ends up with what he is pacing, just like JE didn’t get 120 points. Art Ross is a relative comparison - not an individual statistical extrapolation Was more so being hyperbolic anyways - I do not think he can or will surpass McDavid - - - Looking back, where I was wrong in defending his contract when he got it, amid oodles of complaints against it, was not being positive *enough*. I said he’d for sure live up to it, that it potentially could be a bargain. What I should have said is that it could be an outright steal. Additionally, I said he “probably wouldn’t” hit 90 points, and this looks more realistic by the day. Could come down to health. No matter how many times I come in with a new base-level assessment of tage, he in short order seems to surpass it. This is a good, nay, great thing for two reasons, notably A) he’s a Sabre B) my company in not predicting tage would become a potential top 5 scorer is precisely..everyone
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Unlike when Eichel became “Eichel” once he came off his elc and became a point-a-game guy +, we actually have a legitimate NHL 2C behind our 1C this time. Heck, we seem to have a *good* line behind Thompson, full stop. It took them way too long, but they’ve clearly finally realized you need to build depth of scoring behind your superstar and not rely on one star scorer - the fact they weren’t planning on Tage being a star, unlike with Eichel, ironically definitely aided the process. and that we actually traded the guy who would have been 2C we needed behind Jack, and that we were “rewarded” with a return that actually became a 1C, but only after they seemingly realized they “needed” to do it WITHOUT a star (ie build good depth) is just good writing honestly what a yarn The star C, that we gutted the roster to attain the first time, came to us this time by chance, but only after committing to a proper, build depth process. Its funny. It’s well-written
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Are the Sabres out of the running for the playoffs?
Thorner replied to inkman's topic in The Aud Club
Well, ya, because they haven’t put both together in one season for over a decade It’s not so much funny as...accurately reflective? Lol -
🏒 Buffalo @ Columbus, 7 December 2022 7:30 PM ET, TNT TV, WGR Radio
Thorner replied to Doohicksie's topic in The Aud Club
Oh so like Levi/Comrie for next season? Was wondering if we were thinking we’d see an outside, proven addition or just riding what we have in system Waiting for Levi doesn’t surprise at all, just have to wonder if there’s an immediate plan for immediate supplementation should he not be ready. It’s a lot of eggs in one basket -
Not really. Eichel had 51 through 36 games in 19-20, so a 116 point pace Thompson has 40 through 26, so a 126 point pace
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@K-9 why is that funny? He might
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🏒 Buffalo @ Columbus, 7 December 2022 7:30 PM ET, TNT TV, WGR Radio
Thorner replied to Doohicksie's topic in The Aud Club
It’s definitely been a situation where you can see that Adams is trying, yet the degree of difficulty required in finding that addition was made so difficult in part by his own miscalculation in not paying to keep Ullmark. So he’s at once making reasonable attempts, yet to a significant degree it’s a situation of his making, in the first place. I wonder if he takes a mulligan on Ullmark and concedes to a bit more pay to get the deal done long before Beantown ever entered the fray, if given the chance. In the end it’s hard to torpedo a GM for any one individual move or lack there of, especially without knowing all the extenuating that could have worked against a deal. That’s why it’s best to look at a large timeframe - at the end of the day, results in addressing the position must be expected, full stop - ie, it wouldn’t be logical to think a GM with all the tools at their disposal didn’t have the means to better address the position, considering all available avenues, over a reasonably long period of time. The difficulty is determining the time frame. But I don’t think it’s logical to just expand that timeframe indefinitely forever more and say “well what can be done?” In the end results must be expected over a reasonable timeframe. With this being his 3rd season as GM, and the rest of the roster seemingly ready, I can’t imagine anyone arguing that entering into next season, his 4th, in a similar spot re: GT could be in any way acceptable When do you see him addressing it? The offseason? -
🏒 Buffalo @ Columbus, 7 December 2022 7:30 PM ET, TNT TV, WGR Radio
Thorner replied to Doohicksie's topic in The Aud Club
NGL result was a bit satisfying for me after I posted this rough offhand breakdown yesterday Kinda lined up with the game. Fix the GT outright, shore up the D a little, profit -
Thoughts on Thompson's & Mittelstadt's Development
Thorner replied to Taro T's topic in The Aud Club
Some Kyle Wellwood in Mittestadt -
Ya with Anderson it’s an availability thing. But it still comes to the same issue
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Haha. Re: GDTs, I don’t really find them to be post-in-able if I’m not getting the game on cable - score updates are posted somehow instantly in thread and long before I see them on my stream, and they pop up while posting frequently, and are recognizable as “someone scored” posts immediately because the type in question are posted so diligently. My own issue. keep getting myself spoiled. Have to protect the integrity of the game experience! Lol
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Says Adams was looking to stop gap to Levi Adams has clearly made up his mind we are living and dying by Levi - this one is my worried inference Lance says that Adams camp on/off record does NOT like their chances of locking up Portillo
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Lance Lysowski also on the show Gotta say, if Lance is on the mark, the board certainly is dialed in to everything we plan to do moving forward...or maybe he just reads this site Reiterates that Adams has enough stockpiled now to put the team together and go for it. Says we need more depth D Said we need a goalie and that none of the guys we’ve had have been close to good enough and that they are still evaluating Comrie and UPL(lol) Says we need to shore up grit in bottom 6
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I was banned for bringing in burgers with avocado For the record if you put a space between the @ Refuting it doesn’t send the notification tag
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Why bother. He’s decent. Rick is so, so far beyond anyone else, no matter who calls the games will be a disappointment with the slightest comparison. Rick was one of the top reasons I’m a Sabres fan. It’s honestly a huge loss. Replace Dan and the new person would still greatly suffer by comparison. Even if there is a small improvement, it’s not enough/worth prioritizing that over a dude’s job who by all accounts is a good guy and does a decent job. No sense chasing what we can’t get