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No You’ll deride. I’ll retweet

No tv means no game for me. I’ll be following along in thread for unbiased, balanced coverage

Dahlin is better, and more importantly his deal will be signed 2 years after Fox, and timing is key for contracts. Dahlin will get to 10.

Ya, Jack did have 82 in 77 his 4th post draft season, same one DC is on now. Still, a 78 point pace for DC compared to Jack’s 87 is much, much closer than I’d have predicted. Cozens as 60 point borderline 1C masquerading as 2C already was tantalizing, a 70-80 point guy lined up behind our 1C has been the (pipe) dream since Black Sunday

How the heck does McDavid have *83 points*. Next closest non cake-job player (Leon) has 21 points less - that’s Kucherov. That’s absurd. He’s got about 50% more points than Tage Thompson who’s having an MVP quality year. In reality, McDavid should get the MVP every year. There isn’t an argument he’s not the best player and the most valuable

Urgh I can’t read, that makes more sense, thanks. Break time But if everyone is healthy Power is being lined up on the left, correct? Their choice #1, given all available options, has been Power 2LD, Jokiharju 2RD, unless I am well off?

Dahlin is 5 points off his career high. He’s played 41 games.

If Joki is in the lineup has he generally been paired with Power, though? Like assuming health? They seem to line Dahlin up on the right by preference but Power the preference is on the left when possible. Ie when Joki is in he’s firmly on the left. But again I could be wrong

No you were right, I just rounded up to 86. I hadn’t got to your correction yet and was too eager beaver- only saw the initial 88 you listed

Agree that was probably what they were trying to emphasize, lost me with the last bit, what’s more realistic? In honestly, I think Terry probably views himself at the centre of the spider-web (I mean he is the Owner) but I also think Adams is aware of this and is comfortable with the perception: but that when he’s the last one in the office he dusts off the rest of the picture and it’s actually him, Adams, at the centre of a much larger web, where he’s pulling the threads.

It’s kinda funny it says that Terry is “leading the hockey side”

As far as I know Dahlin is the only defender they’ve done that w/, with any consistency, though, unless I’m mistaken. They’ve paid an eye to handedness when possible, but I don’t think it would prevent them from playing, say, Johnson there if he was better than the next guy, to your point. Dahlin playing his offhand on the top pair is still rather a unicorn, it’s just not something you see very often at all - once Power becomes the player he’s going to be I could see it going either way- we might see a bit of off-hand drop off once there’s further to fall, whereas he’s at a more moderate level now. Or perhaps he’ll be like Dahlin where can maintain elite play on either side with no noticeable alteration in production and output.

Boldy got 7 per and there’s people who think Dahlin will come in at below 10 haha

He was never a prospect that was an odds on, better than 50% shot to be a mainstay starter in the NHL. There’s always a lot of uncertainty with any prospect, aside from the very top of the draft guys, especially in G. He can be, and is a great prospect, but that’s not the same as it being a guarantee or “safe” (better than 50%, most likely resulting scenario) bet that he’ll be a good NHL goalie capable of starting 40 games, nm the playoff goalie of the future. As far as prospects go he’s the bees knees imo still for goalies, but there’s no “likely” in the vernacular until we see it - - - Glad to see Pronman finally catch up to my analysis on Dahlin. Surprised he’s only listed as “bubble” elite when he’s ranked #1

They just have to establish as a *playoff team*. It’s been 12 years man. That’s objectively a really long time for a human being when measured in earth years. We actually don’t get that many. 12 is a huge chunk. I’m not even talking winning a series which takes us back nearly 2 decades. A generation. Clearly the team has asked plenty of patience from the fans, I think the fans are well within their right asking patience from the team if they are asking “where are you?”. But I’m pretty sure they already know. Asking why fans aren’t “showing up for Thompson and some goals” kinda insults the intelligence of a fan base that knows what this is all about and just wants playoffs. They seem to slowly be turning the corner: just give it time. Once they finally make the playoffs again and prove they are a threat to do it every year, the building will fill during the regular season as well. Fans wanting to see them get over that hump is totally understandable. We are pacing for 86 points. That’s an improvement, that’s promising: but it’s not like we didn’t have 81 seven years ago under Bylsma. And we thought it was *bad* then. Fans aren’t busting down the doors for a 5 point improvement on the decade low-water mark. The team will need to lead the way, now. They know it. Build a playoff team and the fans will come. For all of it.

Silver linings, let’s see.. We remain one of the healthiest teams in the league this season. It’s been refreshing tbh, those comments re: examining their injury treatment process seem to perhaps be more than lip-service.

A win’s a win, right

I tallied up the average points gained by all the teams we’ve faced at home, and I tallied up the average points gained of all the teams we’ve faced on the road...and they were almost identical. So, no juice there.. I know we’ve faced about 2/3rds backup goalies and I was tempted to see how those broke down over the home/away splits, but it was a ton of effort just looking up every game and checking on who the goalie was each time, the first time, so decided against counting again. If I had a guess they probably balance over home / away anyways.

The fact the gymnastics aren’t getting in the way of wins is exactly the point They are only being made * because they don’t *

Alright. Most of this stems from “paper transaction” and the implication of said statement. This is where the confusion is coming in. I don’t believe the board is using the term within the proper spirit or doing service to the nature of why the transaction is happening in the first place. Quinn, Peterka, etc..calling their demotions “paper transactions” betray the spirit of those moves: the significance of what “assigned to Rochester” means, *as far as the Buffalo Sabres nhl hockey club* are concerned, remains *in tact*. The transaction isn’t semantically “in paper only” - Quinn can’t play on the team right now (or whenever it was he was “sent down”.) The fact he’s still physically breathing buffalo air is the semantics part of it. It’s not relevant as far as what designating Quinn to Rochester means in the now term: he’s not playing on our team. The reason Quinn isn’t playing, the reason a player gets “assigned to Rochester”, again, remain in tact: if Quinn was just heating up and settling in to the Calder top 3 as liger predicted recently (sorry liger, love you) he’d be *playing* not getting “assigned”, paper or not. We aren’t messing around with Quinn Peterka et all to spare Anderson, the sparing of Anderson is a silver lining to the situation transpiring where a few of our young guys, by way of their recent performance, have made themselves “disposable” re: the aim of winning, today.

It’s a reasonably interesting exchange considering it happened 3 months ago. I did a serviceable amount of grilling there in my follow up ie “will he start at one point or BE the starter?” and the follow up, as you can see by my bold, ended on his selection of UPL over Comrie, after being pressed...so, I’ll give the call full-marks.

@dudacek did

Heck of a pass by vo

Dahlin is more important than Thompson - - - regerdless. This was Dahlin / Samuelsson. That Dahlin has scored in more games than even TT a guy in the Ross Race was just making my point on that plane. Dahlin is a / one of the / foundational ice bergs of the team’s #1 offence, it’s part of the foundation if removed the rest won’t just configure into the sum of the rest of it’s parts Owen Power doesn’t functionally replace anything *close* to the offense that Dahlin provides, not close to how close Dahlin comes to replacing what we’d miss with Samuelsson’s D. We get that that’s the equation in question here, right? That Power (a guy we are already counting on regardless) / the team can sooner replace Dahlin‘s offense than Dahlin (a guy already being counted on) and the team can replace Samuelsson’s D? Not only can Dahlin’s offense NOT be replaced by buckling down, he’d still leave a sizeable hole on the defensive side even if not Samuelsson big.

Tage Thompson has 50 points, and points in 23 games this season Dahlin has 37 points, and points in 24 games. Dahlin has contributed in MORE games than our superstar 1C. And played D. Think about this. Scored in more games than a guy in the Art Ross race He’s not the droid we’re looking for if taking a guy out between him and Samuelsson Makar, conn Smythe winner