Thorny

Clearly don’t read my posts so I’ll reiterate my stance of the last 10-12 months: I believe the sabres, as generally a last placed team all year, were in a position to add talent wherever possible to tune of bPA. We aren’t close to reaching a “ceiling on goals” lol. A goal scored helps our D as much as one saved improve team as much as possible. I’d trade for the better F before the weaker D. I felt we needed all the help we could get at F BEFORE dealing JJ, forwards are in a tough spot right now. I think we were like 23-24th in goals 2 years ago and these things tend to go in cycles: as I’ve said the sabres are a shell game: the issue never presents as one thing cause the issues mutate, stemming from overall inexperience and lack of depth

Bad apple

It’s funny how when you really peel back the layers…. everyone deep down is a prospect loving Kevyn Adams. We saw Peterka drafted, hyped it, followed his progress, he’s an nhl player now. What’s that good for, winning? Pass. Trade him. Return is FINE doesn’t matter Adams told us entire reason we weren’t adding and winning was to save money for these extensions. Swap in the next guys. Trade young Helenius? Hell no trading Peterka is one thing. Trading Helinus is a non starter. He could be anything! With luck, maybe even another JJ Peterka!

A better deal than what’s a really good one based on on-ice value, well beyond the one we just made? Why? Maybe the league is waking up to the fact that prospects and picks have been objectively overvalued as currency for decades and not by a little

I consider myself to be a Japanese peace Lily

No, I’m not The swap from 9 to 12 is nothing If we can trade our leading assist forward in Peterka for a 4th dman, we can trade our never scored an assist in the nhl and won’t for years Helenius for a top 6 player Oh yes. Yes, we can

You know what I don’t understand? this board, at all you realize Peterka is LEAPS AND BOUNDS beyond the asset that Helenius is? Right? We are ok with dealing a big-time, current scorer for a 4th dman But ARENT ok with dealing a damn future for a top 6 guy? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Whhyyyyyyyuuu Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrr This Unironically

You certainly conjured splendid imagery of the great Scott Stevens there

Every prospect is by definition superfluous when you haven’t made the playoffs ever and those prospects have no chance of meaningfully affecting the ETA QUOTE MY POST ABOUT HOW I SAID ID LIKE THE TRADE I double dog dare you

Do it, absolutely. A negligible swap of picks, a superfluous prospect, for a legitimate top 6 winger? This one will get kudos from me should it come to pass

i agree with your stance in actuality Do you put any stock in the word today Byram’s market is “lighter than expected” or is that nonsense?

Good. This Crest and it’s fans deserve a better class of criminal standing up for it…and I’m gonna give it ‘em

Cheers

I don’t. I discuss with everyone. Rightly or wrongly I’ve been engaging with many many takes pro-trade and none of them have I called a burner but you. Never in my long years defending Eichel. I am well-familiar with being on my own. It’s not a reactive reaction on my part. I just have no interest in discussing with a plant, I’m sorry I don’t know you, I’m not trying to put you down. I just find the idea of team plants to sway the narrative very disingenuous not to mention incredibly lazy but that’s not on you - you are on assignment.

Wouldn’t be a bad move given the corner we’ve boxed ourselves into. Forwards will be unsalvageable if we can’t deal Byram for a legit top 6 dude so might as well double down on D and try to defend our way to the playoffs. Issue for me there is goaltending - could be a huge handcuff when we can’t outscore our issues

You are literally a sabres employee dude Like I don’t just throw these things out there - I’m not trying to insult you/throw that out as shade i am aware. No interest

Kevin (smartie pants) of sabres twitter mentioned something I didn’t think of: Byram’s market shrinking over night likely the result of teams seeing the perceived low-ball offers we took in our last 2 trades - teams can see we sell for objectively less value than worth because of $ prioritization Thankfully we know better. And thankful we don’t need a good return for Byram. Can just keep him, pay him, and I’m sure Kulich and Norris and co can hold down what I’m given to understand is an elite offence

Adams is going to be the GM for the foreseeable, for me likely liveable future I mean he’s earned it

Sorry, .88 at 23. Was only using “point a game” because it was often the term of choice leading into the deal. 70+ points. Call it the “Josh Norris” points per game pace And he’s actually not very good. Didn’t I say it already? Masterclass You should post about these things before! Not just after the fact depending on the result. People may learn from you

This is why i don’t really agree with the Adams hot seat stuff. He’s probably been allotted a mere half the amount of time he needs to right this

It would certainly be, that’s a great catch. But here’s what you’ve missed: last I checked the sabres have improved year over year under Adams tenure you can correct me on that if I am mistaken

Peterka wanted out. Given that fact pretty much any return is a +, not sure how we can construe it any other way. In that sense the return is found money. when you are trying to recover from the chasm a guy like Botterill left us in, it takes time. Can’t remember who the poster was but someone mentioned when you look at teams like Florida etc it can sometimes take even as long as 10 years or so to rebuild that and get yourself out of that hole. Some players like Peterka who don’t have the maturity to wait are going to be to the casualty

Ah so Peterka was likely to hold out That’s what I’ve heard too Nah

We traded a point a game winger for depth pieces, the reaction is overwhelmingly positive, and you STILL think we are selling the return short? Masterclass; potentially