Thorner

Mahomes otherworldly

What this game has been great Better than game 1 at least

Chiefs working that Bengals O-line right now. If the Bengals can’t get that sorted out soon Burrow could be in for a long day, and the Chiefs may have 2 weeks to heal up before Mahomes gets another shot at title #2

“Meaningful games in March” used to be talked about a lot. Looks like we’re gonna get there. - - - If the Caps come away with 3 points or less their final 2 games before the break, including today’s game, and the Sabres win against Carolina, the Sabres will enter the break in a playoff spot both technically and by way of points %

I just hope the last two games are more entertaining than this one

I wonder if Philadelphia is the favourite in the SB regardless of who wins the other game Most impressive..

Go Leafs!

Dibs on the dude with hair

I guess it doesn’t bug me because winning in the regular season doesn’t really mean anything in and of itself other than relative to the points it gets you in the standings: it’s one of 82 where total points are the end goal and what determines the winners, or rather who plays on. A tie is a result that gains 1 point in the standings. In the playoffs, obviously only the winner of the head to head matchup matters obviously so you need a winner. Just how I see it, guess it doesn’t bug me. If it’s a good game it’s a good game. Empire Strikes Back kinda ends in a tie Granted it’s only 2 hours

Yep.

To me 3 on 3 ot, especially now that coaches have got their hands on it, resembles the regular NHL game just as little as the shootout, anyways. Maybe im old fashioned but I don’t mind a tie. Why do I NEED a winner in a regular season game? A tie is also a result. I feel like OT and shootout wins feel cheaper anyways. I know that’s reflected in tie breakers but that’s only a factor if you tie a team. Playoff OT remains awesome

It’s funny: depending on what Washington does, if we win on Wednesday, at the all star break we’ll be ahead of the pens for 8th officially but behind in points % and behind Washington on points but ahead of them on points % I’d call that 8th fair and square So one more shot at the line before the break.

It would feel cool to be officially in a spot at the all star break

Got to see the 3rd and OT + *that* close to being in a playoff spot. But UPL lehnered out. Oh well. 1 point back and the point streak continues

That goal from Quinn was bananas lol

Ya, my point was meant to be an interesting illustration of someone who Jack compared really quite closely to, for a while, before things took a turn. Interesting in that - I think what I was trying up allude to is that Getzlaf represents a reasonable goal for Jack to aspire to “get back to”, at least by way of health and (raw) production. Character stuff is an open question but I alluded to that as well when I said, “if he has the will”. Basically, I’m not saying he’s gonna catch McDavid in the end, just you wait. Or that he’s going to get back to elite, necessarily, even. Getzlaf represents a real target. Of course, it’s not a given. Have to see. If that doesn’t answer your question, then I change my submission to “d-bag Getzlaf with slightly better rate of scoring but while playing 12 less games a year.“ whoever that nhler is 😄

Sorry this one grinded my gears a bit

Yup, ignore the last 3 is *exactly* what I’ve done, if you read all my endless posts in this discussion /s I’ve talked about the recent 3 a lot, multiple times. Don’t know how many ways I have to say it. ^ not only that ..but you literally said “assuming they same highs and lows we’ve seen thus far”. Jack’s career points per game, all 8 seasons, is .93. Getzlaf’s career is .88. You said “assuming the same highs and lows going forward.”. Jack has averaged 60 games a season, inclusive of all 8. Getzlaf averaged 72 games a season. Ive specifically posted in this thread about how Jack averaged 70 per, before the neck. And I specifically said in my post addressing yours, “if he gets back” I don’t think I’m doing any ignoring

We can blame Jack all we want but everyone knows in their heart of hearts the team and management was dysfunctional as well during the lions share of his time here. The fact they TANKED TO GET HIM proves the ineptitude preceded him. So blame Jack, do it. But blame both. Oh ic that makes sense thanks for the clarification

I agree with this mostly and good post but “good players for 8 years” thing is objectively false. The teams were the rats ass his first few years after the scorched earth tank And it got WORSE when Jack actually got good ie wasn’t on his elc ages 18-20 anymore. That’s when we dealt ROR and played Johansson at 2C - the year jack became point a game Saying those teams were actually good would be extreme revisionist history

Through first 5 seasons: Getzlaf: 363 games 339 points Eichel: 354 games, 337 points come on now everything went off track when he hurt his neck. So far

There’s a few 60 gamers early in his career to the tune of Ryan Getzlaf being a great comparable (even stylistically not far off, also both big bodied playmakers), until that big “21” shows up on Jack’s dB page. Like intimated earlier - if he gets back to 65/70 a year, if he can match Getzlaf’s will, could have an answer They even both had 82 in 77 early on and then a 90 point (78 in 68, COVID) season right after. Striking actually

As mentioned, not on tv so sadly will miss this one. Though, all is not lost: I will be watching the Royal Rumble If Cozens isn’t playing, I bet it’s cause he drew #30

Ya man I guess. If we are really getting into the nitty-gritty to the point where, it’s not a case of you/one suggesting, potentially, “oh we should have kept Eichel!” if he just explodes going forward, ie we are accepting he needed to he moved, and we are really on pins and needles waiting on Jack’s future career, spanning years of our lives, to evaluate whether Adams should have gotten, what, an extra second round pick?...gotta tell ya, not really for me. We know Adams got a good deal. We know from the time of the deal there was a ton of questions around Jack’s health, the constraints on the negotiating process KA had cause the new team needed to OK the surgery. If it could have been a better return, I struggle to think it significant. For me, the book on the trade is written. If Tuch assassinates Tage at practice tomorrow, maybe I’ll change my mind but I already made my peace with the deal, by way of KA being absolutely correct about the deal NEEDING to be made, while I thought we were receiving 50 point Tuch. If Tuch goes back to 50 point Tuch I’m still Tuching myself in with a smile on my face by way of vastly improved team. You may not (see: do not) agree but, I can only express my truest thought: the book on the trade is written for me. Adams receives full marks. Court adjourned. I’m done. (We’ll pick up the Eichel discussion Tuesday at 3:07pm, coffee will be on)

Is your contention about “playing” or “playing well” or both? No point even going back and forth on the latter. As for “playing”, if he’s got the will to be out there, and I think he does, I don’t see him hanging them up that early. There is a long history of players who’ve battled through injuries...continuing to do so until a more advanced age. Probably also depends if it’s nagging injury after nagging injury or if it’s a complication like the neck, something very serious that keeps cropping up. He’s not even at the top end of the list of “mainstay injury prone” guys in the league - Eichel has averaged 60 games per 80 since coming in, Zach Bogosian for example has averaged 47. If Eichel’s neck can be seen as a 1-off, (not saying it can, I truly don’t know yet/need more data) distinct from all the other random stuff he’s had crop up seemingly endlessly (it’s his only surgery, correct? I could be missing 1), he’s actually averaged 70 games per year, a reasonable number, any season in question where his disc issue isn’t factored in. (21 games in 2020-21, 34 games in 2021-22) To me, if I had to guess, if the neck DOES prove to be distinct, and he returns to the “generally gets banged up but is good for a solid 65-70 a year”, I don’t see a short career. If the neck set back is the first in a long line of similar set backs, I could definitely foresee an unfortunate, earlier than expected (when drafted) end to his career.