Thorny

I’d love to put you in the chair, right now Just, as is. Get to work.

I was wrong yes it was 8 years ago and stopped lol. But I see it trying to come back

You’ve been talking about money puck for 5 years lol It’s not what’s happening Not even when Botterill did it I wish, man, I wish

Norris averages 15 goals a season since entering into the league. That would be the best place to start for a projection removed of bias one way or the other. Is the best way to build a team making all your choices based on a collection of scenarios you are hoping for the best case result in or does it make most sense to configure based on the most statistically likely result considering missing playoffs isn’t an option? Cozens has averaged 16.4. Cozens also the better assist producer which of course add to total goals. I’m not sure we can declare the offensive output much more than a wash unless we want to give Norris the added benefit of assumed health rather than going with his actual average. to say Norris not only outproduces Cozens but does so to tune of having a whole bunch extra to replace half the total of Peterka seems egregious, not to mention the fact JJ led our team in assists. There’s some massive Monday stretching going on here the sabres were 23rd in goals 2 seasons ago - that’s just as likely to be reflective of what to expect as last year. We were front runners last year, a lot of those goals were empty calories as Darth expertly laid out. Then you add in loss of Peterka and the fact there’s no cap on goals, our offence looks woefully short

I’d prefer to let Terry do it and make the playoffs Not my money Absolutely. No brainer.

As others have said, if this was any other team than the sabres anyone would look at the roster and say it was primed for an expected upgrade on the way - looking at the composition, the cap space, and the assets we can trade

This is a good point and it’s not like something can’t still happen

No I’m not mad, talk until your heart’s content. I’m just going to keep leveling my opinion. If that doesn’t bother you, we are good lol

We do this every year After July 1 it’ll be at, “camp doesn’t start till August!” stage then, “gotta wait till rosters are finalized” stage. then “give it to thanksgiving” stage

I refer you again to my statement about the question not mattering if the answer isn’t obvious. That the Buffalo Sabres fans would have to squint to imagine improvement on the verge of year 15 is a joke I’ll just keep saying it

Fall in line with this mostly. Again the question of whether we have improved is essentially besides the point if the answer isn’t blindingly obvious. All you have to do is place yourself in the mind of last June, 2024, and *be honest* with yourself. Remember what everyone was saying? It HAD to be their year. Last chance. we proceeded to be a last place team nearly the whole year if someone had told they’d change no coaching, no management, forwards nothing, just worse, goalie nothing, and the add of a 4th d man - you’d literally laugh out loud If the sabres are somehow “improved”, I only think less of what we were we downgraded one of our best players and had a mediocre draft - that’s the extent of the offseason for the worst team in pro sports

My exact thought lol

It’s fine to have Dahlin Byram Kesselring Power Samuelsson Docker and Timmins and say those 7 D are your 6 D. It’s really the 8th guy that’s the spare. A fully healthy unit is more uncommon than common imo

Definitely time. Dunno about the will but there’s time

If this is a question, at all, when year 15 is on the line, we’ve failed

Our overall minimalist approach this offseason on the verge of 15 straight years of no playoffs can only be construed imo as a reflective of their utter confidence in Josh Norris

And made 9 selections

We traded 1 pick lol

Same

Exactly. Again you said it best I should have kept reading

That’s the rub. “Fine” doesn’t jive with what you’d expect and want after 14 missed years and the declaration playoffs were mandate this past year they are not approaching the roster as if they are desperate to make the playoffs. Does anyone think it looks like they are? Most change on the fridge It’s a good trade. That doesn’t mean the impact will be significant. It’s a good trade for a low level asset - there’s a difference

I’d say overall we are still weaker than last year and we were mostly a last place team Peterka to Kesselring and Doan is a downgrade and I’m not sure Clifton to Timmons bridges it - i think of we are lucky we may be break even at a lower cost

Better than Dahlin, maybe. But I’m only on page 7. I won’t give up hope this place gets to Pronger by the end of the thread Promo is now a borg mind I see