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Mrazek standing on his head

Love Savoie, my favourite prospect. I’d swap him for Saros without a moment’s hesitation.

Chicago up 2-0 on FLA currently. Chicago regulation win gets the Sabres back into 10th in points %...

So you only see a budget D signing (while hoping for more) and a bargain bin back up G? That’s the extent of our GM’s work all summer, to help get this squad into the playoffs?

It’s a good point for how quickly the odds can change florida has a 1/3 shot and we are winning our game in hand from being tied with them

Lol that’s hilarious I read “miro Satan” when he meant the devil grier reference just lost me I guess, my bad. Didn’t see it referenced in thread until you alluded to him

Their evaluation of Eichel has been key. The team assembled around him facilitates his ability to be their best player, or rather, Eichel’s aptitude capably fills the niche of what they require, for THEIR best player, *because* they’ve identified the proper support “Eichel-as-top-guy” requires. In a league where your best guy plays only 1/3rd of a game, there isn’t a player in this league (not even McDAVID) that doesn’t need this consideration. (Especially when your best player is on his ELC and not really “that guy”, yet - just as an aside.)

Just on a tangent, the fact Cozens hadn’t even played in the NHL yet, Thompson had only played less than one full season, 66 games, as a Sabre, and that what Dahlin had committed to record was really good, when Adams took over, is support against the idea Botterill shouldn’t get credit, of some sort, for these additions, because of how they performed under him. These top shelf guys either didn’t play at all, played very little, or played really well. One can rule them out for other reasons, ie, “I’m not giving Botts credit for finishing last and taking the obvious guy in Dahlin”, sure, that’s more than fair. But these weren’t guys playing poorly under him. Though, given how poor a GM he was, I don’t doubt it very well could/would have got to a point where he DID squander them ala how he managed the key Eichel asset

Wait Satan is a GM?

Pretty good win for Eichel and the first place Knights, that was only Tampa’s 5th loss at home

bUt hE hAd rOR aND kAne fOr hELp wHEn he wAS 20

Tim and Friends got into some Buffalo stuff today. Needless to say, the 10-4 did stand out/ make news. Tim questioned the embarrassment of Comrie

If it’s really 25-26, honestly I’d say “won’t” in addition to “can’t”. • 23/24 our goal needs to be playoffs. Falling short in what is the 3rd full year of rebuild and 4th year of the GM’s tenure wouldn’t, imo, be acceptable. Ie it would be indicative of a rebuild not going to plan. However, short of something I can’t foresee, something catastrophe, falling short of that goal wouldn’t mean the firing of the GM. • 24/25 will be the *4th* full rebuild year and the 5th of Adams tenure. If you are the GM for 5 years (an eternity in pro sports) and haven’t *made the playoffs* in a 50/50 league, at this point firing is absolutely on the table for me. It does not take that long to field a playoff team with any kind of reasonable competence with a timeline that even attempts to respect the fan base • 25/26 if this is *really* the year Levi is good to go as a starter, ya, KA could very well not be here to see it if the plan isn’t going well ie the plan in this case clearly needs to take shape BEFORE Levi’s arrival

The fact there were no maintenance days sorta suggests they are more tired than hurt, no?

Agree but not sure about “break even”. To me we definitely need to surpass .500 Ya I’m ready to try and look for the positives in a high-80s finish. if we collapse down the stretch here and are at like 80, that’s gonna be tough to reconcile Old wounds, what not

Well if he’s in Buffalo we need him playing games to do right by the player, but in a year where playoffs must be the goal, if Savoie isn’t one of our 12 best F, that could present an issue

Good for Danny!

Negative to joining Roch? He just couldn’t by rule, due to CHL agreement re: his age he’d need to be assigned to junior if not Buffalo Negative to joining the Buffalo team? Presumably we can only afford to roster players next season who are ready to win and he might not be ready for that yet Team concern more so than development, in that case

So KA almost certainly can’t afford to “wait” for Levi under those terms, should they come to pass: that would be KA’s *6th* year as GM lol

This is why I find it helpful to look at the macro. For all the endless yaking we do, sometimes you do glean a lot from the more pulled -back, more-variables-accounted-for view. It’s why we get tried and true cliches like “you are what your record says.” relax, and lets see how the stretch plays out. If we win 6 more games and lose 12 and finish below .500 and below Bylsma’s 81 point mark from 7 years ago...ya, the rebuild is behind pace and I’d have some pretty strong concerns moving forward. 75 points last year to 80 points this year is not much progress, not a mark of a rebuild on schedule. And how could we expect a SIZEABLE improvement next season to the extent we make the playoffs, if we are THAT far back, and only improved a few points or so, with all the career years we DID see? But if we finish up reasonably, just reasonably, and finish with, say, the 87 points we are paced for. That still seems to be in line with the growth many were projecting this year that would be inclusive of evidence that the build was going well: a 12 point improvement (75-87) is something we can work with. In addition to our first .500 year in a decade (maybe even Deluca?) and finally surpassing Bylsma’s mark, which I find both symbolic and important. 12 point improvement, again, next season, would be 99 points and playoffs lets see how things finish up

Ya, this is kinda what I’m getting at. The “ton of progress, though! Process.” narrative isn’t even written for this season yet- still have to finish up strong. How the team finished last season was (rightfully, imo) used endlessly as support for the progress of the plan, the same value should be put on the finish to this season. I’ll be looking at the end result, certainly.

Expectations are on track but honestly, there’s a lot of season left. It’s why I haven’t given up on playoffs. But, frankly, it could get interesting the other way. I feel like finishing strong down the stretch is important no matter what happens. We are pacing for 87 points. If they just totally crash here, “disappointing year” is still on the table. Imagine not finishing .500

I’m not sure if he’s in the Plan but the Plan clearly requires a known, apt quantity in goal next season: this isn’t UPL, so I’d imagine he can only be in the plan next season if one of the other goalie spots can afford to be filled by an inconsistent player of his nature perhaps backup G can be argued Yep

One full year in Roch would have his rookie season ‘24-‘25, no?

Not sure I’d be convinced the expectations should be set quite that high but, all the better. Personally, avoidance of “development year” lingo and a focus on playoffs, in sincerity, with that being the stated/intimated goal, would be enough for me.