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So no use trying, right

Yep we just don’t have enough evidence to draw a conclusion on Adams in 5 years i Hope if we ever get a new owner Kevyn Adams is still here to get the first cool 10 year term to find guys who want to be here

I didn’t say Adams is the biggest problem. There is no debate, here. Pegula is the biggest problem because he is the owner. Adams is a terrible GM, the worst in the nhl by a country mile and likely pro sports firing of any member of the staff would be welcome by me because something is better than nothing, if only to send a message of expectation. i literally *do not care* if Terry is worse. You and MJD can continue the straw man argument no one is having. No one is ever gojng to agree Kevyn Adams is “actually ok” which is the true Trojan horse at play. No. He’s awful. He should be fired. the “firing him won’t make any difference at all” (as IF one would know that. As IF Adam’s is *literally* a puppet who doesn’t GM at all at all and Terry manages the day to day, for some astronomically uncommonly weird reason) is just the latest form the “what could Kevyn Adams have even done?” logic has taken. It always spouts a new head

Team is a joke

They are too young and not representative of enough $ being spent. These are extremely documented negatives to winning it’s not on Indy at all heck it’s not even on Lindy

Agree. And I’d be converting any good future asset to a good present asset whenever possible. Presumably the 1st round pick has higher value than most if not all of our other future assets, if we get the same relative value in return as we’d be getting in a trade for any other young asset, of course I’m taking it. If it’s a good trade (the kind you make) we likely get the highest level of current asset with it that we can look to see from moves we may make. ie im not trading it just to trade it but it would be at the top of my list, all else equal. (Ie we are getting the same relative level of trade return across the board)

They are ALWAYS high on potential and low on overall talent. And the potential doesn’t “arrive” into the prioritized future as well as planned, ever, because we too thoroughly neglect the present. You can’t *have* future success without establishing success first, now. If that is true of any franchise ever it’s this one: we are totally poisoned from the top, down by being enveloped by painfully low-to-non-existent expectations for too many years. Winning isn’t part of the culture here: players don’t buy into it. We necessarily need vets baptized in other, winning based cultures. It literally doesn’t matter how much hypothetical winning we can envision for the future by projecting out our young talent, the “let there be light” moment is realizing the literal only thing that matters is making the playoffs right away. Sell-out to do it.

Imagine using another first overall pick on a D-man. Would be insanely bad asset management. If the top pick in a draft is a “stay at home” D-man, that’s by definition a weak draft. Trade the pick. We should be trading it unless teams’ offers are out of left field

Because that’s when they lost their 10th straight? It’s an absolute clown show at this point they need to fire someone Doing nothing and therefore labelling it all as acceptable when other teams make changes for oh so much less failure is so embarrassing

I’m flabbergasted by the logic of not

Pointless if not to fire Adams

No, the answer is not a higher pick. I can’t believe we are even going to ask that.

Adams has the only 3 in the top 5 where the team wasn’t trying to lose on purpose. Adams occupies the majority of the list after removing those seasons. Adams is also putrid and a common denominator for the most extreme failings of this franchise

6 pages. 6 page GDT for a game against the Leafs, 5 years into our latest rebuild. 10 straight losses. Thanks Terry, Kevyn

We are so back

Was more so drawing a comp between Dahlin and Thompson

Will need to probably play at ~ 107 point pace rest of way to make it. 71 point pace through first 30

Do you think he ever thinks about how the entirety of the prospect base he’s written about for 10 years has essentially amounted to meaninglessness?

And who’s been missing?

You neee an alpha personality to step in. Someone who has the ego to not only think they can fix it but *know* they can given past experience. Someone who doesn’t have that fear of failure and can see the fact they are merely a playoff appearance in short order away from star, if not legend status in Buffalo (and a bunch of cred league wide considering what everyone else thinks of us). Someone can easily be the “guy who got the SABRES into the playoffs”. It’s right there. no idea if we will ever hire a person like this. I think that’s the bigger obstacle than someone being willing to try. To your point I think it’s an attractive position both in assets roster wise and the attainableness of the initial (crucial) goal The guy we have at GM is more concerned with, or in full agreement with, a strategy that talks about success in the future and long-term success before ever attaining anything in the now.

If someone can dance on skates I’m all for it

I’m fairly hesitant on trading Cozens. I’m not sure if that’s because our C depth will be a comedy act should we deal him, because i still believe in him having a reasonable upside, or if it’s just because I’m not all that interested in adding another puck-moving left shot defenseman who’s “played on his off-hand in the past.”

There’s more to the offensive side of the game than goals. He’s a centerman. They should work on getting his transition numbers back up to par, and his ability to find his way to both the net and empty spaces where he’ll have more room to work from. He’s not insanely skilled but he’s very athletic and I think there’s more hockey sense to unwrap. This comes down to hockey sense - he’s not a sniper. If he can get the puck to better areas I think his assist totals can really benefit

Exactly. The pegula thing is being overplayed in the sense it went from “he interferes” to “he controls literally every thing ever done.”’ Adams is terrible. We can do better. heck id gladly welcome his firing purely due to that press conference. I’m literally tired of him being the literal face of this and want him out of my sight I promise you I’ll watch more games if he’s fired Superficial olive branch to the fan base? Maybe. By all means sign me up regardless