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Cozens, Samuelsson and Skinner are all day to day with UBIs
Thorny replied to Brawndo's topic in The Aud Club
I liked this from Lance tbh Part of the normal rigours of trying to win in the national league -
Cozens, Samuelsson and Skinner are all day to day with UBIs
Thorny replied to Brawndo's topic in The Aud Club
ask Brawndo. He’s the twitter announcement guy I’m just his house elf -
Cozens, Samuelsson and Skinner are all day to day with UBIs
Thorny replied to Brawndo's topic in The Aud Club
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We need a little more Mike Tomlin. “The Standard is the Standard.” There’s no reason we don’t have enough to work with any given year if we believe in the personnel we’ve assembled to field a playoff roster.
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Ya I agree, I’ve posted almost not at all about the latter two’s failings this year (relative to last season, you know what I mean) - because this was a predictable benefit of the contracts they signed, that we specifically mentioned at the time. Not so much with Dylan, but Tage is STILL well paid just on what he’s doing right now. And like you say, there’s upside. Of course I’d prefer they were playing better but A)I think it’s hard for a roster to live up to the sum of its parts / for individual players within that sum to be maximized if it/they are working to plug holes elsewhere. Ie I expect production improvement with better roster supplementation which we NEED to do anyways to win, so and B)they are still really good - not only is there obviously more upside, they are good enough as is for a skilled GM to bridge the gap the rest of the way to playoff roster, which is my only expectation
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It doesn’t handicap them, but it does make moving him pretty unlikely. If we commit to Mittelstadt long term, it probably means another key roster spot included in our core solidified. Not that he couldn’t be moved, it just wouldn’t reasonably be very likely, at least until towards the end of the deal. I only mention this because, as I’ve alluded to before, Casey will absolutely be worth what he gets paid, it’s not so much a fear of him living up to it in a vacuum: but rather I think there’s an interesting question at play that should at least be considered, whether the particular combination of talent we have in the core is a good one re: winning.
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“So you want to..” ”No! Not want! Not about want. Do, or do not.” The analysis is based on precedent
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Former Buffalo Sabres forward Tyler Ennis (2008, 1st round, 26th overall) retires from the NHL at 34. He finished with 700gp, 144 goals, 202 assists, 346 points. On April 22nd, 2011, he scored the last Great goal in Sabres history:
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I didn’t ignore it cause it wasn’t a good comp I just wasn’t interested in responding to something I had nothing to say about
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Casey is more less somewhere in between me, and Mario Lemieux Closer to Lemieux
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Maybe slightly ya, I just don’t think Backstrom really serves your argument he’s sort of out there. He’s more less in between, but trending closer to Backstrom than Coyle, sure
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In addition, Backstrom averaged a pace of 82 points per his first 6 seasons. Casey has average 45 per, over a similar frame
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Backstrom isn’t a great comp. He *averaged* 77 points a year. Casey is pacing for 71 during what’s so far a career year. It would be a bastardization of the numbers. And I’m a Casey guy
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Bill Belichick is not an average head coach what are we doing here lol
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If Levi stays up, we definitely know who the goalies are next season if he gets sent down, I would think Adams *has* to bring in a competent backup for next year or it’s a “fool me twice” situation
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Come on Cody you can do it! Remember this video? Might be a little less melancholy now if he completes his comeback
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That’s the key point. The Sabres weren’t *trying* to make a long term trade with the deal. It torpedoed *their intent*. It being salvaged later on by a future GM doesn’t take away from its terribleness
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It’d be a game-changer for me in so far as his increased output helps bridge the gap to a playoff berth this season.
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The most hopeful thing is that they probably can/already have found the way to, provided they are somewhere in between what we saw last year and this, be a team at least not SO bad relative to the rest of the league that they just get in by chance eventually
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That just means he struggled to win with a bad QB, not that he necessarily needed the GOAT. Brady “wins” cause he’s Brady, and he’s the guy actually playing and he got the extra title.. but no one who actually watched the earlier years of that run could deny what Bill Belichick was. Brady, aside from in the clutch, wasn’t even the utmost strength of those teams a big thing for me too, he was 11-5 the Matt Cassel year Bill Walsh was 17-23-1 without Joe Montana. Smaller sample size, but even worse math. It doesn’t take away from what they did once they got that guy.
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You might be absolutely right. Truthfully, I suppose I’d say I just don’t really care. The league has demonstrated countless times over it doesn’t take 5 years to turn around a hockey team into one that converts on a playoff berth one solitary time. It is very uncommon to take 5 years, to go 4 years under one regime without a playoff berth. There are only *4 current teams* out of 32 in the entire NHL with active droughts longer than 4 years. Let that sink in. There are only 5 teams with a drought longer than 3 years. 4 years is a very long time and we are headed for that: that’s why the expectation was playoffs, THIS year. If we make it next year, it will be “damn, about time”, not “good job”. And like I said, teams don’t miss 5 straight years. Only 3 right now, league wide, besides us. Im sorry, if KA can’t do it in 5, if he’s equaling that putrid level of drought all by his lonesome, that only 3 other teams league wide get to, never mind the REST of our drought, I’m just done with the regime. More power to those who have an endless runway
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Right, im good with calling a spade a spade too. We just shouldn’t pretend there’s any kind of expectations. Cause there aren’t. The strategy is the strategy and it takes how long it takes. Missing the playoffs 4 straight years doesn’t lead into a change in approach for next year, and like the post you quoted mentioned, it’ll likely be another 2 years until the roster is supposedly ready. If it’s not then, well, stay the course it is what it is at this point, it’s easier to give up the angst and choose apathy. Making it this year, taking till year 4 of your term, I would have said Adams did an ok job. Missing this year, if we do, ya..a strategy that takes 5 years to get a team in the playoffs isn’t a good one, regardless of if we made it next year. It’s not a situation where I’d think a GM particularly deserves credit. We already know it’s a lacking plan if we take until next year to make it, if we need till year 6 or whatever was implied, I mean… totally on board w/ the thinking. Bad strategy, bad GM, but if it takes 6 years it takes 6 years. Or beyond. I drew my personal line at 5. It’s the time I’ve got for this regime. I’m barely watching this year as is: hopefully they can put it together for next year, that 5th one
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So it’s just a run back again, we are pretty much locked in to what we have and what happens happens We don’t need to approach the offseason any differently even though doing it that way leading into this season resulted in a disastrous year thus far just hope it goes better next time Honestly, I kinda do see it playing out that way, too.