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And the Blues won in 2019 because they traded for a 2nd round picked C in ROR - they didn’t win because they had 5th overall Brayden Schenn on the roster
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GDT: Penguins @ Sabres, Jan 17, 2025 - 7:00PM, MSG 📺, WGR550 📻 🎙
Thorner replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
The fact he doesn’t only serves to make the picture crystal clear, though. I mean, I wonder which category “non-responsive, barely present” owner more likely falls under? -Overbearing day to day meddler who loves the team so much he won’t shut up, who just won’t stop interfering till he gets it right? -Or does it fall in line more with someone who neglects the team and won’t give them the proper resources to find success? Hmm I wonder. And the team doesn’t spend money either…I suppose that’s what Terry determined in his endless hockey discussions was the way to make team good…it doesn’t line up at alllllll with not giving a sh*te. The world knows all of his GM hires are under-qualified…cheap hires who won’t complain about the constraints inflicted. Budgetary constraints in the name of winning, right? But, our bad performance can’t *possibly* be explained by these admittedly drastically under-qualified candidates being left to steer the ship, right? The ones being asked to operate on a shoe-string budget? Naaaaaaaah we just can’t know. The owner must be forcing them to make bad hockey decisions TOO! It’s gotta be. I can only assume the extremely incompetent Pegula hired very good, capable candidates, for some reason, who are entirely capable (….for some reason??????) of fielding playoff teams on budgets no one else can, if only he had let these guys have a clear run of things to implement the GM plan they came up with after learning about what a “an NHL manager” job is on the day they were first approached to take the job -
How can we be better than the A’s? At least they have Brad Pitt
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GDT: Penguins @ Sabres, Jan 17, 2025 - 7:00PM, MSG 📺, WGR550 📻 🎙
Thorner replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
A .500 team out of the playoffs, not very surprising tbh -
GDT: Penguins @ Sabres, Jan 17, 2025 - 7:00PM, MSG 📺, WGR550 📻 🎙
Thorner replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
So the fact we are the youngest team in hockey, with one of the lowest payrolls, two factors that *demonstrably* predict failure (on their own! Never mind together) historically, is just a coincidence, and the reason we are *actually* bad is a bunch of shadow transactions on the the regular from Terry, uncover, pulling the strings on waiver pickups and which deals to make… come on lol. It’s the parameters! Terry is at fault for the handcuffs being imposed, and the putrid hiring record of under qualified candidates. We don’t need further explanation, an invented boogey-man of pretending Terry is actually the guy making the micro decisions: he doesn’t have to. The poor results are already guaranteed and explained by the poor hiring record, candidates which are then further limited on top of that through cap constraints - - - we’d be in the playoffs by now if Terry’s crime was caring too much. He’d have spent and spent and eventually got it right once. The problem is MUCH worse. Worse than love, worse than hate. It’s neglect. -
GDT: Penguins @ Sabres, Jan 17, 2025 - 7:00PM, MSG 📺, WGR550 📻 🎙
Thorner replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
You have it almost completely backwards. The issue with the sabres is neglect not that he’s too involved Adams’ mandate is “if you are going to be bad, at least do it on the cheap.” The purpose of the Sabres is to be cost-effective. To spend within the internal cap. We are a bad team because we spend less than everyone and are younger than everyone and those 2 things are part and parcel. it’s legitimately not rocket science. The idea Terry is obsessed with the day to day and is in the office crunching numbers and making roster decisions in the micro is utterly laughable. I don’t even know where that meme started. That’s not that’s what’s happening: he just barely gives a rats arse -
2025 NHL Trade Deadline: March 7th, at 3pm Eastern
Thorner replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
They are 7 points behind the *2nd last place team* in the Atlantic. They are beyond cooked -
GDT: Penguins @ Sabres, Jan 17, 2025 - 7:00PM, MSG 📺, WGR550 📻 🎙
Thorner replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
Could really have used a tag team partner on this 4 years ago but better late than never -
GDT: Penguins @ Sabres, Jan 17, 2025 - 7:00PM, MSG 📺, WGR550 📻 🎙
Thorner replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
They don’t need a sports psychologist- there’s no wonder what the issue is. They aren’t unusually mentally fragile: young players are just naturally more susceptible to mental struggles and we always have *the youngest team in hockey*. It’s an error of roster building, not selecting players with poor psyches. We are developing and fostering those psyches through the environment we are bringing them all into time and time again One silver lining re: the sabres is how obvious all their main issues are. Would make them much easier to fix if the org actually cared -
GDT: Penguins @ Sabres, Jan 17, 2025 - 7:00PM, MSG 📺, WGR550 📻 🎙
Thorner replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
Better to reign in hell.. -
GDT: Penguins @ Sabres, Jan 17, 2025 - 7:00PM, MSG 📺, WGR550 📻 🎙
Thorner replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
Reinhart also said he was open to a LT extension under KA. They went bridge during Covid It’s much worse for Sabres fans like me with no connection to the Bills, definitely All the suck none of the benefit -
GDT: Penguins @ Sabres, Jan 17, 2025 - 7:00PM, MSG 📺, WGR550 📻 🎙
Thorner replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
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2025 NHL Trade Deadline: March 7th, at 3pm Eastern
Thorner replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
It’s not just about head to head matchups - it’s also about the fact that more teams = unlikely the cutoff point holds where it is because the greater the pool, the more likely one or more emerges who outpaces the trend Amen -
Sorry maybe that wasn’t clear ; of course they don’t - but I’m dealing 5 overall and Konsta Helinius (sp?) and any highly touted prospect I can get my paws on for the veteran players when I can and then bumping cozens down and ipso facto aube-kubel becomes the aube one out
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Makes sense I’m still sort of more in the mold of wanting to “bump everyone down a line.” I can’t muster up the energy to single out any one of the underperforming guys I just think the environment is such a schmozzle im hesitant to cast a definitive judgment on even someone like cozens. So, I’m thinking add the best we can while leaning towards age whenever possible, lessen the responsibility of who we can by bumping who we can down the lineup and the first to pay are the 4th line guys and such. Of your list, it’s guys like Krebs and Kulich all else being equal id deal before cozens/quinn etc first guys off should be the Malenstyn and aube kubel’s of the world
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That’s a good point on coaching, certainty a factor to think about when debating whether Casey would have continued on here as he was. Most of our other players seem to be playing more less as we’ve seen them - we just haven’t gotten the jumps from the younger players everyone including the GM was pencilling in so, re: point 2 - I don’t need to debate a hypothetical when I’ve already seen that Casey did in fact “move the needle” here so far as raising the overall aptitude of our F group, in so far as leading most statistical categories when we dealt him
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Reviewing Adams’ Off-season Departures at the Halfway Mark
Thorner replied to Porous Five Hole's topic in The Aud Club
Mediocre would be a spa day -
Also, my priority is to de-emphasize youth, which is our biggest handcuff, along with lack of spending. If I get my “ask” for 5 overall and, I get my “ask” for Jack Quinn ..between the two I like the first trade better because we are dealing the younger asset
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IIRC we’ve had the convo but I’m not keeping pick 5 just because it’s pick 5 on some sort of principle. It’s as on the table as any other futures asset if a reasonable price is met
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GDT: Penguins @ Sabres, Jan 17, 2025 - 7:00PM, MSG 📺, WGR550 📻 🎙
Thorner replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
This is me, essentially. I think this is the first year I can remember I haven’t watched a full 60 minutes yet to this point in the season -
It would be *so* refreshing if we dealt the pick this year and saved ourselves some time, for once.
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So players can go on to great things elsewhere and win cups, but no one can be a better fit in Buffalo, actually? Would defy logic to suggest it can’t go both ways. Casey being mediocre in Colorado this year doesn’t change how good he was for us last year, nor does it diminish the possibility he would have been exactly that, here, again. id be much more inclined to think what we saw with our own eyes on our team last year was more representative of what we’d have gotten from him, here, than the results displayed in an entirely new environment That may not be true, last season could have been somewhat of an anomaly, but I certainly wouldn’t be opposed to finding out if a reasonable trade presented itself
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This seems like the type of add we’d make to a T, tbh. Puck moving D lacking defensive ability are the pillars we are building this thing on, why not add one more
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Reviewing Adams’ Off-season Departures at the Halfway Mark
Thorner replied to Porous Five Hole's topic in The Aud Club
You really have to hand it to Kevyn Adams -
GDT: Carolina @ Buffalo, 1/15/2025, 6 pm ET, TNT, truTV, MAX
Thorner replied to Doohicksie's topic in The Aud Club
We are so back