Thorner

Well yes obviously by “more” I’m referring to quality and not shear quantity. “Win now assets relative to how we project the team to be affected in the macro in 2025” i think it’s actually the pick, the mystery box being OVER valued by GMs that results in few swaps of those assets, rather than an overvaluing of the cars already driven off the lot

Right it’s just originally you opined the pick would probably be worth more in a trade. So clinging to that I suggested I’d rather trade the pick (get the better return) and also roster the better 2025 player in power. If dealing power returns more win-now assets than dealing the pick, it might change my calculation Essentially I’d award 2 points to any aspect of the trade (s) combination that results in better on-ice aptitude for now, and award 1 point to any aspect of the trade combo that results in better projected aptitude in the “future” term

If there’s truly a substantial gap in perception that SCREAMS trade. (Should we land the pick) consider there are infinite parallel universes (there are): yet, in not one does a team select a left shot D man at first overall 3 times in a row Legit can’t happen lol

Any time you have the ability to pencil in a Juri Kulich to a prominent role based on an extrapolation of some rookie-ish stats put up while there was no pressure on team and said player ala Jack Quinn, you have to do so

Ya I mean if you have the confidence to think Schafer is going to eclipse Power at the fledgling age of 20 to the tune of being sure about it to extent that it’s worth having a significantly weaker player in the meantime for a few years, and probably a weaker return, so be it. Personally i can’t even fathom carrying about laying that 2-years-from-now brick before coming anywhere close to laying the bricks for a playoff berth in the now, but it’s to each their own the ability to push the timeline back for it being our true window, AGAIN, with sending Power out in favour of an 18 year old, would be undeniably appealing to a regime looking to keep costs down and expectations low

That’s 2 years away! And you said Quinn would be our best F this year, so That’s not a shot. We just can’t mess with this logic anymore it doesn’t matter what we firmly believe will happen several years down the line: what matters is, in good conscience, assembling the team next year we think BEST has the opportunity to win

Ymmv then but I’m definitely moving the pick. If your analysis is correct and the pick would fetch more - option 1, trade the pick: better return assets for now, better defender for right now (Power) option 2, trade power: weaker return assets for now, weaker defender for right now (Schaefer) im not sacrificing a better outlook for next year, two fold, in exchange for the chance Schaefer ends up better than OP down the line Not close to be honest given how crucial it is for this team to win, for once

Did Adams hack your account EEE

What has more value in a trade, the pick as is or Power?

Maybe in theory, but this is absolute fantasy land. This gets suggested every year and it never happens We want to willingly increase the degree of difficulty of a build we can’t get going, as is, by saddling Kevyn Adams with the need to make a great trade involving Power? incredibly hard pass. We talk on the daily that Adams has his back against the wall in trades. Like a lamb to the slaughter if we send him out into negotiations with teams knowing we need to trade a specific D man

Bob’s rankings are out, particularly of note with the Sabes in the running for 1 overall. #1 is, of course, a left shot D-man

We have no interest in making the playoffs next year if Kulich lines up in the top 6 to start the year Like, zero but to answer your question: no it’s not a desired stat line for a C on this particular team, because we don’t seem to have any traditional playmaking centres

Seriously? No

Hope if we draft a C it’s a playmaker

Ya

They know it’s over so there’s really nothing to be gleaned imo. Evaluation years are a luxury of like 3 years ago Can’t use the runway to teach accountability either as none of it will register until ownership and management run the team reflective of playoffs being the goal, unlike this season

If we all admit the season is over, can we get an influx of board members back evidently waiting around for the offseason?

Goalies are in fact the one position where you can say, on its face, “size matters”. Burden of proof is on any small goalie. It’s hard

You know how “ask the audience” on who wants to be a millionaire is almost always correct? Like there’s that thing that in large sample sizes you’ll generally get correct answers to common problems…I feel like it’s not stupid to suggest a sabrespace committee would have done a better job in the last 14 years than the management we had. Why not?

It’s not “he’s hiring unqualified candidates who actually turn out to be suggesting good ideas for some reason which he then refuses to enact because he wants it to be his genius that saves the say” like it’s such an unnecessary added layer purely for the obviously see-through purposes of pretending Adams might be ok You can’t have your loophole. Adams is not good lol

A wholly unqualified GM being left to his devices literally explains the poor results…never mind one upon which ridiculous handcuffs are imposed. You are trying way too hard. You’ve got him: it’s Terry. Him hiring awful candidates and handcuffing them explains our ineptitude. He’s not *also* vetoing the good ideas the unqualified people are coming up with for reasons best known to ourselves

Why do you lay these troubles on an already troubled fan base? Can you not see we grow weary of your malcontent….your warmongering

Ride out and MEET them

The reason he can’t “bumble into a good hire” is because it’s nearly impossible for any GM to field a playoff team under the parameters he’s setting: the only people willing to take the job are wholly unqualified candidates like Adams who have no business being an nhl GM at all: thus the putrid results even relative to restrictions imposed you are right: Pegula is the central issue. The pool of candidates would be much larger and likely to produce a playoff team if Pegula actually cared about making the playoffs. But he doesn’t