Thorner

“Best player when healthy” isn’t a very strong argument on its own re: “the better player overall” when his injury history is Bogosian-esque It keeps being said, “if he stays healthy”. It should be, “assuming he continues to occasionally struggle with health concerns.” That’s not a negative viewpoint, I would argue it’s not a matter of being positive or negative. It’s about an acknowledgment of the actual documented statically history and the most likely result based on that. There’s a clear established trend, it’s not some sort of 50/50 proposition. This is exactly the same argument I made re: a Comrie I’ve seen almost no discussion paid to the idea of how we structure the lineup under the terms of assuming we get about 60 or so from Norris. Hope for more of course

Probably because his comments are literal propaganda *TO* convince fans it’s not all doom and gloom as most like to believe lol like that’s the subtext of his script. That’s the messaging below the surface you are purchasing

And Ruff thinks Norris could be the 1C. So I guess we didn’t have one? Haha

Great post We might be able to trust this Strider fellow

Ya don’t say Watching this thread go to “well we actually got by far the clear best player” in a matter of pages was a little disappointing. Come on dudes

This is the dangerous thinking MAYBE he represents an upgrade on the current cozens. We needed top 6 help when we thought we had 68 point cozens! We’d have *never* traded that Cozens for Norris. We should be hoping this swap represents a redo on Cozens and back to square one, if lucky i cannot stress this enough: Adams hasn’t *done* anything yet He’ll have a long career in the nhl haha

No, he doesn’t. Because the injury concerns aren’t just a variable we list and then dismiss away in the name of bias. It’s a real thing. He hasn’t played more than 66 games in a season, EVER. He WILL be injured, until proven otherwise - that would be the only reasonable way to look at it The deals are are means to WINNING. Winning is the context: not raw talent They always do shite like this. Trade for guys and say they are their new best player

lol credit for not making a colossally bad deal? Haha Rare lose lose trade

I don’t think we are very good

Exactly

The GM who built this is already safe for next year Let that sink in

Good precedent to let set in for the new guy

How does Norris look

These trade requests are prob more common that one thinks

I edited my post, I still don’t really agree. I’d say equalling and surpassing 91 was actually a much more statistically accurate expectation. Those models are always behind: again the projection for the following year would be reflective of several years previous not just 22/23

He never could get over the fact we constantly spelt his name wrong, to the point it started affecting his play, clearly

No chance we met expectations last year. It was a resounding fail! 84 points and 22nd place after missing the playoffs by 1 is a step back and a failure Even go look at the pre season projections thread The resounding message LAST year was “it’s time” THIS season was supposed to be about “he gets fired if he doesn’t do it” There’s no accountability - - - I see now you mean relative to whatever analytical predictions were made but knowing those are an almagamation of the results of several years I don’t find them that reasonable a barometer of expectation

I was so annoyed when everyone was like “oh a 2 year term to tie him with Adams, they’ve got 2 more years to fix it” Probably so mad because deep down knew it was true Always at work, always on company time

It’s definitely a few things, I’m sure he’s not doing a particularly great job. But often a leader is only as good as those you are asking them to lead: it does so happen that all of the issues you mentioned fit nicely on a Venn diagram with the problems associated with “youth”. And, at the end of the day, Kevyn Adams picked the coach for his players so it still trickles back up to the GM I’m also heavily biased because I like Lindy, yet contrastingly hate Kevyn Adams dumb stupid face

It seems more less lateral, with a hope it breaks in your favour. Even best case scenario you’d think maybe he amounts to OLD cozens - and that was a roster in need at said time. People saying we took a step forward today are I think losing sight of how many steps we took back that we need to make up first

Dunder Mifflin

Really? I haven’t been following the cap all that closely so we’ve had all this space, and now it’s all gone just by keeping what we have? What a waste