Thorner

7th? I see them at 19th and we’ve played more games than literally everyone

Maybe the Power and Cozens deals end up a detriment because being paid too soon they struggle under the weight of expectations, but my gut says those deals still end up good, maybe even very good. i don’t really think the weight they are contributing to, that’s dragging down our sinking ship is the issue, so much as the holes we put in said ship, by choice, that we refuse to fill

Well said. I think I still kinda like DG

The thing is a solid stretch to end once teams have already counted us out doesn’t mean anything

Sure - I’d be good with that too. I just left it out cause people *frequently* use that argument when no actual, immediate deal follows. It couldn’t be a period of “evaluation” after where we spend a year deciding. It would need to be an immediate corresponding swap

To answer your question: what it feels like most succinctly…I’d imagine it’s what Gollum would have felt, if he was a real person (and we allow for a to-sports conversion) You hate it, you love it. But your destiny is entirely entwined within it - I don’t feel I have the ability to step away even if I wanted to I’ve poured so much into them over such a long time - there’s no going back. To lose them would be to lose a big part of myself

I wish I could do that. But for me, my first love wasn’t hockey. My first love was the Buffalo Sabres. They introduced me to the game, not the other way around. I’ve been a fan literally longer than I can remember because of my dad: there was no choice. I don’t really give a sh*t about hockey, truly, beyond the Buffalo Sabres. And that’s me being candid

Look no further than the fact both “sides” have issues with what I wrote Because by value in, value out, we’ve improved

It’s not snark (would say if it was, I’m snarky all the time) Adams actually does operate this way: at least in my estimation. But I’m not being disingenuous - I think it’s a “good” trade. I tend to attempt to evaluate both by the prism of what I myself would do, but also by what Adams in his mind was trying to accomplish. Usually there are several angles in interpreting these things - I try to avoid black and white

It’s a candid, and believable approach, too. Don’t see it as disingenuous at all as maybe alluded to in thread. I’ve mentioned this before (usually when people say, “what do you think this is, a video game?” in response to asking the GM to make moves), that I’ve suspected some (actually a lot of people) just prefer what I term the actual video game, the Online GM Simulator mode where we analyze prospects, figure out the long term cap sheet, etc etc. Not trying to clown that approach at all: it’s more likely to lead to satisfaction if that’s one’s M.O. Same reason I’ve opined that being a “hater” of a team actually has intrinsic logical value: that team is mathematically extremely likely to not win the Cup every year. You can get a lot of mileage from just rooting against rather than for. Being a sports fan(atic) is indisputably illogical and in the end we only have ourselves to blame for continually “purchasing” a product we don’t like

Surprised there aren’t more tbh

He probably just laughs and laughs about all of us, if he ever gets wind of it even at all. In seriousness, none of this actually matters because the 💲goes up up up. It’s beyond sports, it’s just how the world works Pat probably did too I guess Seems like ages ago. It was such an Occam’s razor, clear sign in retrospect that he just bailed. People that don’t obsess over this stuff like we are destined to forever are just like “ok, I’m out” because they realize the absurdity of what we are doing here so quickly

It’s absolutely a good trade. By the only metric Adams cares about: value within a vacuum. We come out ahead here. It’s a good trade by value comparison. Much more saliently: It’s also a mark of poor performance from the GM, assuming we don’t make other moves: as it’s insufficient in addressing needs. But the trade itself is a good one. We are the victors! We won this trade.

And not make 10 picks every year Another “won” trade. In seriousness: we won it. This is the type of trade KA is willing to make: trades where he wins in a vacuum

That’s Duff Straw, meet: man Welcome

“We got him?! …we got Eric Robinson?!!”

I know this is a joke but in 101% seriousness we absolutely, positively, should not draft a player with our first. Imagine thinking ANOTHER 18 year old kid is what we need to fix this mess. We have a surplus, and drastic imbalance overall. Trade it.

Legit thought there might be a place in Buffalo I didn’t know about lmao

It’s all perception. These last 13 years of historic ineptitude: Darkness took me. And I strayed out of thought and time. Stars wheeled overhead, and every day was as long as a life age of the earth.

Ahhhhhhhh you think darkness is your ally? You and your Jets merely adopted the dark. As a Sabres fan I was born into it…moulded by it.

Place? I thought flats were a type

Rebuild relitigation game tonight: we win, our rebuild is better. Dems the rules. Go Sabres

I am Andrew Peters

I just want Ohtani. Everything sports will have been worth it if we (Jays) somehow find a way to get Ohtani. Which seems at least possible now when I would have called it unthinkable