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Just a little bit of sugar today Send out the red x, get the (T)horns
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Paid for his present, which might be too much, but is certainly inarguably not an underpay, at the risk of a contract boat anchor because of his injury status. We could have everything we are getting from Samuelsson, but without the risk. Instead, we have a bunch of risk. There was no league wide precedent for signing a guy for that long with only a handful of professional games. No need to commit anytime soon. The likelihood of his injuries presenting a long term availability issue is significantly, inarguably higher than the liklihood he offensively pops off the the tune of ever earning a bigger contract. Awful contract. Needless commitment during the beating heart of the “we wAHnt players who wAHnt to be here111” era. A misfire of shallow, obvious messaging. A masterclass revelatory farce from Kevyn Adams Thanks for playing
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@Sabres Fan in NSyou can deal out all the red Xs u like because you have no way to actually refute my argument- but it’s a pretty poor reflection of your unwillingness to admit you are objectively wrong. I’m not mad, I’m just disappointed
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At this point calling Samuelsson “muel” is like in cartoons where the fat guy is called “tiny”
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I disagree. Some players demonstrably have game-styles that more often put them in the line of fire for injuries: “prone” can also be representative of the situational. Bogosian was a good example Samuelson is clearly injury prone. I’m not ready to get there with Quinn Once the sample size gets large enough
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He’s a paid professional and there are paying customers and the commitment to winning would be disastrous to step back from. If he’s not fully healed at 8 weeks, of course, OF COURSE, sit him. But if he’s fully healthy he’s fully healthy. Use the remaining games to improve your own We haven’t made the playoffs in 13 years. We absolutely can’t have the hubris to act like a single solitary game can be afforded to be willingly passed up by this franchise. *Every single moment* available to them as professionals on the job should be utilized - if they have respect, at all, for the fan base.
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Cody Rhodes fans might disagree
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@Sabres Fan in NS I meant that the contract hasn’t been justified yet: there isn’t a viable reason why we’d want that commitment right now. If we could take the deal back, we should: we would avoid being locked in long term to a player we have literally no need to sign to a risky contract there’s no value to gain. I was right, I’m sorry. He’s not worth a 7 year deal right now - we aren’t gaining anything, there’s no underpay, he’s at best accurately paid, and we could have that without the needless commitment because he’s never going to earn more than a 30 million dollar contract there’s never been a player more accurately described as a “concept”. Remember he was our “mvp” last year? We are significantly worse by record with him in the lineup this year he’s JAG and he set the standard for JAG contracts. I don’t have much inclination to beat around the bush here because I’m objectively correct: it’s not a good contract, and I’ve been saying it for years. Why back down now
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you bastage
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I can never find a way to wrap my mind around the fact people think you can..should?…evaluate whether your core is complete *without an eye to the results.*. Surely, surely, we’d only consider our core “set” by way of the most important metric, results? Why the heck wouldn’t “aptitude” be a key factor of whether or not a team considered their core set? It’s not set, it’s not anywhere near set, until we can determine it to be a core worth sticking with “Core” only has value under the context of “successful core”. Core what? Core of ineptitude? That’s not a core. That’s not traditionally how the word core was used lol
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It’s worth it: at best that was always my point What would samuelsson cost on a long term deal today? He certainly wouldn’t cost more than what we paid the messaging itself was as much the endgame as any potential future value. Maybe they even knew that, but it’s backfired so far. As of now there has been zero justification for that contract
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Called it
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It’s a used flip phone
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Kucherov is a loser
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there’s there’s me caught in the middle
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Playes on the roster you like more/less than the rest of the forum/fans
Thorner replied to mjd1001's topic in The Aud Club
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Most players in the league do NOT have NTCs. The implication that trading is “essentially closed” to us is absurd here’s the list, about 3-4 per team https://www.thefourthperiod.com/no-trade-clauses Trading is a barrier re: the Sabres winning the Cup. You need a lot to go your way to do that. Trading isn’t a barrier to the Sabres being a playoff team, ie, mediocre, ie, 16 out of 32. Not with a shred of competence If a GM doesn’t have the competence to navigate the trade market as is, he’s not going to have the ability to navigate it from slightly higher ground
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Interesting
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I’ve been preaching this for a good long while: unwillingness to lose a battle to win a war I agree with your premise